Caracal's "CAR816A2"

**JC5188** · 01-17-17, 04:54

Originally Posted by SmugPePe

The receivers's aesthetically pleasing, I like aesthetics of less curvered magazine thats in it too. Anybody know whats manufacturer and model of that magazine?

Regardless I won't be buying that thing even if it was $700 or something. There's other AR and gun I rather to put the money toward.

If you are talking about the "mag" pictured in the link, it appears to be a CAD or 3D cartoon, not an actual magazine.

The YouTube videos show a standard GI style mag being used.

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**JasonB1** · 01-17-17, 07:54

Originally Posted by SmugPePe

I like aesthetics of less curvered magazine thats in it too. Anybody know whats manufacturer and model of that magazine?

I think it is cgi'd in also, *but* Orlite magazines have a very similar silhouette.

**556BlackRifle** · 01-17-17, 10:51

I know next to nothing about the company or their products. Am I willing to spend $1,800 of my hard earned dollars on one? Nope. They may be great rifles but; a) I'm no fan of piston systems. b) Only very basic specs are given. c) It's a very young company and hasn't built much of a reputation at this point. Right now there are too many good deals from great companies with good reputations to take a chance. YMMV.

**Slater** · 01-17-17, 10:57

Caracal is evidently contracting out the manufacturing to an outfit called Wilcox Industries. Not familiar with them, although they seem to do work for DoD contracts.

**SmugPePe** · 01-17-17, 13:43

Oh. Well that's a shame.

**call_me_ski** · 01-17-17, 14:55

I don't think it is a shame to have Wilcox build something. If anything the name brings credibility to the offering. Some of the most serious organizations in this country turn to Wilcox when they need something in short order and nothing on the market will do what they need.

The rifle seems similar to a Sig 516 because some former Sig engineer have done work for Caracal.

Their does appear to be some interesting changes including rail height, attachment method, and the rail surrounds the gas block. There are only so many ways to get a piston on an ar15. They will all start to look somewhat like the next.

**SmugPePe** · 01-17-17, 19:52

I mean about the more straight 30 rounder mag being cgi not a real existing product.

(Yeah I know thats the curve is necessary for reliability of the magazine function due to sublet tapering of the round.)

**RAM Engineer** · 01-17-17, 23:22

Originally Posted by Slater

Caracal is evidently contracting out the manufacturing to an outfit called Wilcox Industries. Not familiar with them, although they seem to do work for DoD contracts.

Rumor was that Wilcox built the USA made HK45 guns years ago. Not sure if that's true or not, but that was the rumor. Wilcox has a stellar reputation.

**JoshNC** · 01-18-17, 09:30

Originally Posted by Slater

Caracal is evidently contracting out the manufacturing to an outfit called Wilcox Industries. Not familiar with them, although they seem to do work for DoD contracts.

Wilcox is a phenomenal manufacturer. They have previously collaborated with HK and make tier-1 products for military/police. If they are collaborating with Caracal USA this is pretty certain to be a great product.

**JasonB1** · 01-18-17, 11:05

Originally Posted by SmugPePe

I mean about the more straight 30 rounder mag being cgi not a real existing product.

(Yeah I know thats the curve is necessary for reliability of the magazine function due to sublet tapering of the round.)

Check out CAA and IMI magazines also
Not straight, but noticeably less curve than other 30rds mags. Considering the Orlite was similar and I think all are Israeli I assume some sort of link between the 3.