Obama Admin wiretapping Trump?

Originally Posted by Outlander Systems

I'm excited to see which reporters from "Real" "News" are on the Agency's payroll...

CNN's Anderson Cooper is CIA.

Long before him there was Operation Mockingbird.

Originally Posted by Doc Glockster

And Donald John Trump, 45th President of the United States of America, just stepped closer to someone from the Deep State activating the assassination option.

Since they can do assassinations without them looking like assassinations and all.....

JFK was murdered by the CIA to prevent him from carrying out . . .

"C.I.A.: Maker of Policy, or Tool?", New York Times (April 25, 1966)

It is on the second page of the article, under the heading of "Kennedy's bitterness," and the specific quote there is "splinter the C.I.A. in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds."

Originally Posted by Doc Glockster

And this is where you've nailed it and why I say we are sitting on a sled at the top of a cliff. This is going to snowball like nobody's business. How can you trust anything in the government, news media, alternative news, or anything now? If someone tells you that China or Iran has fired on one of our ships--you can't trust them. If someone tells you we are about to enter a recession--you can't trust them. If someone tells you that your 401(k) has earned so and so dollars--you can't trust them.

How do you really know that anything you touch hasn't been compromised by some sort of CIA hack now?

I realize that's somewhat of an exaggeration, but how can you really trust anyone in the public eye now?

How could you believe anything before?

The USS Maine was bombed by Spaniards and the USS Maddox was torpedoed by the North Vietnamese?

"Nazi leader Hermann Goering, interviewed by Gustave Gilbert during
the Easter recess of the Nuremberg trials, 1946 April 18, quoted in
Gilbert's book 'Nuremberg Diary.'

Goering: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some
poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that
he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece.

Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is
understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who
determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the
people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or
a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy the people have some
say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the
United States only Congress can declare wars.

Goering: "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the
bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them
they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of
patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in
any country."

Maybe it's really the League of Shadows behind everything....

You've got one end of the country thinking that Trump is going to be convicted of Treason and now you've got the other end thinking that Obama will be impeached. (I did that on purpose). I don't think either side is especially excited to get to the truth, the conspiracies are far more motivating and malleable for messaging that the reality of optimizing healthcare, getting our economy growing and dealing with a world full of violent shit heads. What I do know is that we live in a country that even the STASI would find to be a bit over surveilled.

Of course, SIRI is as dumb as a post- so I'm not getting the benefits of the trade off.

In Soviet America, TV Watches YOU!!!

Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand

You've got one end of the country thinking that Trump is going to be convicted of Treason and now you've got the other end thinking that Obama will be impeached. (I did that on purpose). I don't think either side is especially excited to get to the truth, the conspiracies are far more motivating and malleable for messaging that the reality of optimizing healthcare, getting our economy growing and dealing with a world full of violent shit heads. What I do know is that we live in a country that even the STASI would find to be a bit over surveilled.

Of course, SIRI is as dumb as a post- so I'm not getting the benefits of the trade off.

My suspicion is that the simplest explanations are correct:
1) Nobody from the Trump Administration, including Trump himself, is working for the Russians. All of the so called contact is what one would expect from an international business conglomerate.
2) Nobody bugged Trump Tower. Flynn was recorded because the Russian Ambassador was being surveilled which is fairly routine.

All of this excitement is a whole lotta nothing and both sides are more than happy to use it to feed their bases.

Originally Posted by Sensei

All of this excitement is a whole lotta nothing and both sides are more than happy to use it to feed their bases.

I don't believe so, I agree with, Bernie Kerik "where there's smoke there's fire."

Will be very interesting.


Following is a great segment:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/535073880...#sp=show-clips


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Been around since 1947

ahhh the CIA another great thing brought to you buy the democrats thanks FDR for creating the OSS and truman for the saying CIA was your idea !
which says all about dems its always about THEM controlling power and people not the freedom of the people !!!!


I took a course from a spook in the late 70 early 80s time frame
was a modern at the time survival kind of course and not about guns and storing ammo kind either
more how to blend in and/or get away with things etc..


but they truly as we know have their fingers in everything
and misinformation is a HUGE part of their thing

Originally Posted by Sensei

My suspicion is that the simplest explanations are correct:
1) Nobody from the Trump Administration, including Trump himself, is working for the Russians. All of the so called contact is what one would expect from an international business conglomerate.
2) Nobody bugged Trump Tower. Flynn was recorded because the Russian Ambassador was being surveilled which is fairly routine.

All of this excitement is a whole lotta nothing and both sides are more than happy to use it to feed their bases.

While I maybe agree, at the very least the leaking of #2 is still a fairly big deal.


This is an interesting interview. How did the Clinton campaign know? Why was the IC communicating with one candidate?