Obama Admin wiretapping Trump?

Supposedly there was and possibly still is an ongoing investigation into Trumps connections to Russia. Hopefully that is an objective jobber. Given that according to Comey it has been going on for months, one would assume if they found anything substantial they would have run with it.

We have a separate issue here with potential surveillance information being released to the media. I'm not sure how it is that we keep trying to lump the Russian hacking and illegal release of information into the same thing. They are not. One is most likely an actual investigation while the other is criminal behavior.

If the IC was acting out of pure patriotism, then why leak info after the guy you thought was a Russian schlepp is elected and his opponents are having temper tantrum melt downs? Wouldn't it have been better to release info before the elections? I cant imagine any situation where any government lackey would be bitch slapped by the Obama admin for having dirt on Trump. It's not like the admin at the time would force anyone to have to whistle blow instead of following chain of command. Cause there was sooooo much Trump love in DC.

Nothing will come of these investigations. Not a damned thing.

Farkas and Soros. Hmmmm Hungarian subversive c****.

Originally Posted by TAZ

Supposedly there was and possibly still is an ongoing investigation into Trumps connections to Russia. Hopefully that is an objective jobber. Given that according to Comey it has been going on for months, one would assume if they found anything substantial they would have run with it.

We have a separate issue here with potential surveillance information being released to the media. I'm not sure how it is that we keep trying to lump the Russian hacking and illegal release of information into the same thing. They are not. One is most likely an actual investigation while the other is criminal behavior.

If the IC was acting out of pure patriotism, then why leak info after the guy you thought was a Russian schlepp is elected and his opponents are having temper tantrum melt downs? Wouldn't it have been better to release info before the elections? I cant imagine any situation where any government lackey would be bitch slapped by the Obama admin for having dirt on Trump. It's not like the admin at the time would force anyone to have to whistle blow instead of following chain of command. Cause there was sooooo much Trump love in DC.

Nothing will come of these investigations. Not a damned thing.

Farkas and Soros. Hmmmm Hungarian subversive c****.

I believe you are 100% correct. What should happen and what will happen are two different things.

Originally Posted by ABNAK

A good number of them, yes. All of them? No. Just look at the states and municipalities that are openly and flagrantly defying federal immigration laws. Begin to tally up those numbers and you'll see that while ALL of the Left may not be involved in undermining Trump whenever/wherever possible, it sure is a helluva lot of them! Of course only a fraction of those have access to the IC-level stuff that appears to have gone on. Nonetheless, they are part of the problem with their tacit approval and perpetuating what they know damn well is a lie.

Analogy: a guy I knew was an Iraq vet. He didn't think very highly of the Iraqi people (as I don't the Left). To him there were very few "innocent" Iraqi's. He told me once "When the insurgents plant an IED, they're Iraqi's, the brothers/cousins/friends of the villagers. Those villagers don't drop a dime on them, they give tacit approval by their silence. Then the American convoy comes along and BOOM. Those 'innocent' villagers just sat and watched the show, smugly gloating over the medevacs that came in to pick up the pieces. Did they plant the bomb? No, but they're part of the problem". That is how I feel about the Left.

Good analogy.

Originally Posted by TAZ

Supposedly there was and possibly still is an ongoing investigation into Trumps connections to Russia. Hopefully that is an objective jobber. Given that according to Comey it has been going on for months, one would assume if they found anything substantial they would have run with it.

We have a separate issue here with potential surveillance information being released to the media. I'm not sure how it is that we keep trying to lump the Russian hacking and illegal release of information into the same thing. They are not. One is most likely an actual investigation while the other is criminal behavior.

If the IC was acting out of pure patriotism, then why leak info after the guy you thought was a Russian schlepp is elected and his opponents are having temper tantrum melt downs? Wouldn't it have been better to release info before the elections? I cant imagine any situation where any government lackey would be bitch slapped by the Obama admin for having dirt on Trump. It's not like the admin at the time would force anyone to have to whistle blow instead of following chain of command. Cause there was sooooo much Trump love in DC.

Nothing will come of these investigations. Not a damned thing.

Farkas and Soros. Hmmmm Hungarian subversive c****.

I chalk it up to a complete lack of professionalism.

Originally Posted by glocktogo

I chalk it up to a complete lack of professionalism.

Criminal unprofessionalism.

that one dem lady






Attachment 44710

Originally Posted by Averageman

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...rump-team.html

Here's a clear admission of guilt in the matter.
A former top Obama administration official has acknowledged efforts by her colleagues to gather intelligence on Trump team ties to Russia before Donald Trump took office and to conceal the sources of that intelligence from the incoming administration.
Evelyn Farkas, deputy assistant secretary of defense under Obama, made the disclosure while on the air with MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski.

“I was urging my former colleagues, and frankly speaking the people on the Hill, it was more actually aimed at telling the Hill people, get as much information as you can, get as much intelligence as you can, before President Obama leaves the administration,” Farkas, who is now a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, said.
“Because I had a fear that somehow that information would disappear with the senior [Obama] people who left, so it would be hidden away in the bureaucracy ... that the Trump folks – if they found out how we knew what we knew about their ... the Trump staff dealing with Russians – that they would try to compromise those sources and methods, meaning we no longer have access to that intelligence.”
So lets spy on the new Administration coming in because we don't like the results of the election?
We've allowed the Obama Administration to weaponize the IC against the new Administration and for the most part this isn't troubling to the MSM even though there are clear felonies going on here.

Originally Posted by TAZ

Supposedly there was and possibly still is an ongoing investigation into Trumps connections to Russia. Hopefully that is an objective jobber. Given that according to Comey it has been going on for months, one would assume if they found anything substantial they would have run with it.

We have a separate issue here with potential surveillance information being released to the media. I'm not sure how it is that we keep trying to lump the Russian hacking and illegal release of information into the same thing. They are not. One is most likely an actual investigation while the other is criminal behavior.

Nothing will come of these investigations. Not a damned thing.

What if someone in the administration released Flynn's transcript?

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/03/2...-russian-call/

They certainly seem to have motive and access...

In fact, there seem to have been so many Flynn-related headaches inside the White House, whether current or impending, that it’s fair to ask: Did anyone on Team Trump provide the details to WaPo for its fateful story about Flynn’s conversation with Kislyak on February 9th? In other words, for all of Trump’s grumbling about leaks, was Flynn himself the victim of a White-House-orchestrated leak? Remember, the White House had already learned by then via Sally Yates and the DOJ of what Flynn and Kislyak had discussed. If they were eager to usher him out for other reasons, it would have been easy for Priebus or Bannon to nudge some “official” in the know to go call the Post and tell them about Flynn’s sanctions chitchat. There’s no proof, of course. Just a theory, but a plausible one under the circumstances.

I think the left is accusing the current administration of what the left itself has been doing all along... colluding with Russia AND China to bring our country down.

Originally Posted by Sensei

What if someone in the administration released Flynn's transcript?

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/03/2...-russian-call/

They certainly seem to have motive and access...

Not 100% certain about eavesdropping laws in DC, but unless Flynn himself leaked the transcript it would still be illegal. If the transcript was released by a third party (Bannon, Spicer,Trump..) it's still leaking personal and possibly classified material.

I honestly don't give a crap if they nail Trumps balls to the wall or some Obama retards balls to a wall so long as someone pays for breaking the law.

AFAWK data was obtained through signals intelligence. Whether NSA, FBI, direct or indirect is TBD. Someone unmasked a us citizens name and then that info made it to the media. That is all sorts of ****ed up on legal and ethical fronts. Not only did it harm Flynn and Trump but it also puts into HUGE question the fundamental integrity of surveillance process. How can anyone, us citizen or foreign dignitary, do business with the USA if they know someone will **** them over for even petty differences? Maybe new blackmail schemes... This ceased being political gamesmanship when the welfare of the ****ing country was put at risk.

If your ONLY concerned with party politics you're part of the problem.

My bet is political gamesmanship gone haywire by the DNC. However, I'm willing to accept the inverse if an investigation gathers evidence to the contrary.

I just want an objective investigation and punishment to those who broke the law. PERIOD

Quoted and bolded for effect.

#Gospel

I don't care if Trump himself is the culprit. Someone's neck needs stretched over this shit.

Originally Posted by TAZ

...I honestly don't give a crap if they nail Trumps balls to the wall or some Obama retards balls to a wall so long as someone pays for breaking the law...

...If your ONLY concerned with party politics you're part of the problem...

...I just want an objective investigation and punishment to those who broke the law. PERIOD