Primary Arms 1-6x Gen 3 Scope

[everready73]

Do the PA 1X6's hold up in high round count (1,00 rounds) weekend classes?
Anyone heard of them going down?
Where are they made?

They are made in China, but i havent heard of very many issues at all with these. They have a lifetime warranty and PA service is awesome if you would need to use it.

That being said we are in a competitive market and there are some other good options that are more "duty grade' if you could spend up around $500. If i was buying a LPVO today i would be looking at

Steiner P4XI- This is a 1x4, but has german Schott glass, daylight bright reticle and very durable. DSG has sales on this and they can be found for around $475 if you look around

Burris XTR 2- Natchez has these on sale and they have a couple different options- Made in Phillipines i believe. Have a good glass and built like a tank

Primary Arms FFP Raptor- this is a FFP 1-6 that has a really good reticle and better glass than the standard gen 3 1-6

Burris RT6- good value pick for around $350- reports are great glass and good illumination

[jsbhike]

I have a Steiner 1-4x and really like it.


Garand Thumb has a review on the Raptor. Still not sure if I would like an FFP in an LPV setup for 3 gun.

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Garand Thumb doesn't recommend the Raptor for a patrol optic.
I'm looking for 1X6 duty grade optic thats kind of between a budget model and the Razor HD.

[RHINOWSO]

Garand Thumb doesn't recommend the Raptor for a patrol optic.
I'm looking for 1X6 duty grade optic thats kind of between a budget model and the Razor HD.

Vortex PST Gen 2 1-6x24, around $600.

[everready73]

Garand Thumb doesn't recommend the Raptor for a patrol optic.
I'm looking for 1X6 duty grade optic thats kind of between a budget model and the Razor HD.

What distances will you have to shoot?

The P4XI is checks all the boxes at a great price if you can deal with 1-4

Vortex PST Gen 2 listed above is prob best 1-6 option for your requirements

The XTR 2 is really good and has a few different mag ranges. I like these better than vortex personally

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What distances will you have to shoot?

The P4XI is checks all the boxes at a great price if you can deal with 1-4

Vortex PST Gen 2 listed above is prob best 1-6 option for your requirements

The XTR 2 is really good and has a few different mag ranges. I like these better than vortex personally

Being able to PID at distance is a greater priority to me than shooting beyond 100 yards.

[jsbhike]

Garand Thumb doesn't recommend the Raptor for a patrol optic.

I could recall that, but couldn't think of why. I do recall the DeFoor video on not really advocating ffp scopes below 1-8x though.

[jsbhike]

Being able to PID at distance is a greater priority to me than shooting beyond 100 yards.

If you aren't stuck on the 1-6 part, I assume the VX-R 2-7x has the same positive attributes of clarity, durability, and weight vs. Cost as the 1.25-4x models which get a good review in post #20

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...uot-LVPO/page2

I have a Hog VX-R and had a Patrol. Liked the Patrol reticle circle slightly better, but the non capped/non locking turrets were a no go. I would also assume the 2-7's larger objective would be a bonus in low light considering the 1.25-4x is pretty good at.

[RobertTheTexan]

Being able to PID at distance is a greater priority to me than shooting beyond 100 yards.

If you can pick up a a Burris XTR II 1-8 I believe you would be very very pleased. I have their 1-8 FFP and their XTR II 1.5-8 Dual Focal Plane. I can run both optics CQB, and the glass is really good. Better than my Viper PST glass. Eye relief is good, I run my stocks in the 4 position and from 1-8 I have no issues. Eye box is pretty forgiving although it does tighten up a little at 8x, it is definitely usable and still quick. Part of it is also that I like the Burris circle dot reticles. I know you said this is a duty optic, and I’m a little hesitant to mention this, but I will.
If you aren’t completely opposed to it, look for a used optic. It’s really a safe bet because of the Burris “Forever warranty” literally no questions asked no matter if you’re the 5th ownerless the 50th. I’ll be honest, I’ve bought 2 optics brand new. If you trust the brand and they have an excellent warranty, I think it’s a win. It allows me to pick up a really good optic at a really good price. I paid $400 for the 1.5 -8 and $600 for the 1-8. I also buy from E&E members whom I can trust. Would I run either of these optics I own on a duty rifle? Yes I would. They’re both 34mm and just very well built. The 1.5-8 is on my LMT MWS and the 1-8 FFP is on a 14.5 Noveske. Zero issues/zero disappointments. Oh as an aside I emailed Burris and told them I lost the turret caps and small turrets for one of my scopes. That was this morning. This afternoon I got a shipment notice and an email saying. They are mailing me both caps, turrets and new flip up scope covers that I can’t find.


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Clearly the Razor HD is the standard. Below that while there seems to be many decent options there doesn't seem to be a clear choice on an optic in the mid price point range.