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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Chief View Post
    It's not a particularly difficult process, but it does take at least couple of weeks and you'll need to go through it every time you plan on taking a restricted weapon out of state, since there is no such thing as a blanket permission slip for an unspecified period of time.
    1) My 5320.20 was sent off 9/17 and received back in the mail 9/25, approved on 9/23. Yes that's AZ to WV and back to AZ in 8 days, of course I sent the 5320.20 out in a next day Fedex envelope, but it came back postal mail. A. Lamberger is the best damn NFA examiner at the ATF.

    2) You can fill out each 5320.20 for transport to and from a single state an unlimited number of times for a period of up to 1 year (not just 1/1 to 12/31 but starting at any date good for up to one calendar year). And you can have as many 5320.20's active at the same time as you want. So start filling them out for each state (as long as SBR's are legal in that state) that you wish to bring your SBR to and send them all in requesting a 1 year period. Every year on the same date, send in new requests for the next year.

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    b_saan and gotm4 covered it....

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    I'd like to take one of my NFA trinketts up to the 4 corners (AZ, CO, NM, & UT), and run from state to state with no form 5387.2980.8481613130 (or whatever) and see if the ATF can catch me!

    (just kidding)
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    Quote Originally Posted by demigod View Post
    I'd like to take one of my NFA trinketts up to the 4 corners (AZ, CO, NM, & UT), and run from state to state with no form 5387.2980.8481613130 (or whatever) and see if the ATF can catch me!

    (just kidding)
    Minutiae of the day award goes to... Demi - So would you have to have 4 5320.20's to you stand on the center of the symbol holding your SBR??


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    Quote Originally Posted by b_saan View Post
    So would you have to have 4 5320.20's to you stand on the center of the symbol holding your SBR??
    I would assume so. But to be safe, I'm going to write a letter to the ATF asking for clarification.
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    I have been filing a 5320 for my sister's home in Baltimore for 12-months periods (usually January 1st to December 31st).

    The ATF NFA Branch also told me that I only need to file a 5320 if the SBR is going to be staying outside my state overnight. Because if what you guys say is true, then it is a law that cannot always be realistically met. For one thig, the 5320 requires a specific address listed. If one has to drive through one state on their way to a final destination (which should be listed in a 5320); what address do they list on the 5320? If they don't file a 5320 for the transit state, are they actually in violation? I'm going to have to call them for re-clarification of this rule.

    Also, it would be a good idea for you to make sure that the state you are planning on bringing your SVA items to allow these items in the first place. Don't rely on the NFA Branch to let you know that it is not allowed by that state.

    I recommend that you call the NFA Branch and abide by what they tell you. JM2CW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlosDJackal View Post
    I have been filing a 5320 for my sister's home in Baltimore for 12-months periods (usually January 1st to December 31st).

    The ATF NFA Branch also told me that I only need to file a 5320 if the SBR is going to be staying outside my state overnight. Because if what you guys say is true, then it is a law that cannot always be realistically met. For one thig, the 5320 requires a specific address listed. If one has to drive through one state on their way to a final destination (which should be listed in a 5320); what address do they list on the 5320? If they don't file a 5320 for the transit state, are they actually in violation? I'm going to have to call them for re-clarification of this rule.

    Also, it would be a good idea for you to make sure that the state you are planning on bringing your SVA items to allow these items in the first place. Don't rely on the NFA Branch to let you know that it is not allowed by that state.

    I recommend that you call the NFA Branch and abide by what they tell you. JM2CW.
    I file one each for the hotel or residence I'll be staying at and I file a seperate one with the address of the range/match/training center I'll be attending. CYA....
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    Quote Originally Posted by gotm4 View Post
    I file one each for the hotel or residence I'll be staying at and I file a seperate one with the address of the range/match/training center I'll be attending. CYA....
    This whole process should be done online. I almost never travel out of state anyway.... so it's not huge to me. But, GEEZ. We have computers now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demigod View Post
    This whole process should be done online. I almost never travel out of state anyway.... so it's not huge to me. But, GEEZ. We have computers now.
    That would make way too much sense!!
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    Okay, I just talked to someone at the NFA Branch (I didn't get the gentleman's name) and he clarified some things for me. The number I called was: (304) 616-4500

    Before taking an NFA item outside my state, I do need to have a Form 5320 file and "approved". But when I asked them about having to commute through multiple states on my way to a final destination, you do not need a form for each of the state that you will be passing through as long as you are doing so via common route (i.e. Interstate, US route, State route, etc.). The example he gave me of a violation of this is if I were to stop at a friend or relative's place overnight (or longer) . Then I should file a Form 5320 for that location.

    I failed to ask the ATF representative if this meant that as long as I am on my way to the final destination that is on my form 5320, is it okay for me to stop at various locations on the way as long as it is in the main route (i.e. a hotel that is on the Interstate).

    He also stated that if the final destination does not have an address, a location is acceptable (i.e. Jones Farm, 20 miles East of Intercourse, PA).

    He also gave me a tentative time line of the Form 1 I recently submitted.
    - The item will not be logged into the ATF/NFA Database until approximately 6 weeks after your check clears (mine was 09-17-2008).
    - Since I am using a Trust (RLT), it will be 4-6 weeks before an investigator is assigned and the investigation is started.
    - How long it take after that will be determined by the actual investigation (i.e. it will take longer if your Form 1 has to be resubmitted).
    - Normally they are not so busy during the summer months, but this summer they have been inundated with requests (probably in preparation just in case that scum-sucking, gun-grabbing, baby-killing, commie obastard gets elected POTUS).
    We must not believe the Evil One when he tells us that there is nothing we can do in the face of violence, injustice and sin. - Pope Francis I

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