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Thread: THE BAD: What AR accessory do you really dislike or is just flat out useless?

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    I predict that everything liked will also be hated. Just imagine what we'd get if Eurodriver hadn't driven off a cliff (figuratively speaking).

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    This thread has really gotten entertaining!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    That must be why they make National Match Carbines, huh?

    Aside from the sight radius, which I agree for the .mil is not much of an issue, they gave up a lot of hand guard space which could be used both for equipment and improved shooting mechanics.

    Additionally, to ME, all that barrel sticking out is not aesthetically pleasing. To me, the 14.5 to 16 inch Mid-length with a FSB is a good compromise.
    You might have missed the part where Defoor found that length of sight radius offered the best balance of speed and accuracy, where as long or hsoter lengths offered nothing in the speed department and minimal gains in the accuracy department.
    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...imal-for-irons

    This is M4C, couldn't care less about shooting paper matches from known distance fixed firing positions. I do agree that a 14.5" or 16" middy is a great compromise over the limited space the carbine length handguard offers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteryman View Post
    You might have missed the part where Defoor found that length of sight radius offered the best balance of speed and accuracy, where as long or hsoter lengths offered nothing in the speed department and minimal gains in the accuracy department.
    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...imal-for-irons

    This is M4C, couldn't care less about shooting paper matches from known distance fixed firing positions. I do agree that a 14.5" or 16" middy is a great compromise over the limited space the carbine length handguard offers.

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    Sight radius hasn't crossed my mind in a very long time. I hope I'm not behind the curve here.

    And to add to the original convo, in addition to nickel boron parts, I also am not a huge fan of when people mount optics to detachable A2 carry handles. Shit makes no sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by midSCarolina View Post
    , I also am not a huge fan of when people mount optics to detachable A2 carry handles. akes no sense
    Not something I typically see. Is it the height or the fit you don't like? I'd think the carry handle would be just as tight as any other removable mount. I remember seeing red dots that hung off the front of the carry handle back in the day. Haven't seen one of them in years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom12.7 View Post
    Aesthetics without regard to function or use really burns me in general.
    Yes. Often these types of designs have very poor aesthetics as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wct097 View Post
    Not something I typically see. Is it the height or the fit you don't like? I'd think the carry handle would be just as tight as any other removable mount. I remember seeing red dots that hung off the front of the carry handle back in the day. Haven't seen one of them in years.
    I was browsing through the ARF picture thread and saw it happen twice... I'm not opposed to sticking a mini acog on an actual A2 but IMO when you add something like that to a detachable its just one more thing that can come loose. Also, the detachable carry handle was made so that you wouldn't have to do that.
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    I find a lot of the current offerings in the marketplace emphasize style over function. Things like skeletonized receivers, skeletonized VFG, skeletonized pistol grips, skull shaped magwells, titanium takedown pins, etc.. I also am somewhat dismayed by what seems like 90% of the handguards on the market currently. They all look too lightweight and flimsy to really hold up to any hard use. To me M-lok, and keymod are answers to questions nobody asked.

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    Gun decoratin'.

    I am not intimately in tune with every aspect of the AR15 market but going by the preponderance of offerings, I conclude that the well-decorated AR is more important to a larger segment of the market than the rock-solid, safe, dependable, durable, accurate AR is.

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    The Detachable Carry Handle was also Made with a Hole in the Top, so you may do that.

    Not that there's anything right with that.


    Quote Originally Posted by midSCarolina View Post
    I was browsing through the ARF picture thread and saw it happen twice... I'm not opposed to sticking a mini acog on an actual A2 but IMO when you add something like that to a detachable its just one more thing that can come loose. Also, the detachable carry handle was made so that you wouldn't have to do that.

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