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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteryman View Post
    With any amount of magnification the focal point is beyond the FSB which renders it "invisible". Light enters the optic from all angles so the FSB being 6" or more from the objective makes no difference for light gathering. Your holds work just fine, the FSB is invisible and if you shoot with both eyes open(depending on magnification) then it doesn't matter.

    MM
    Your theory holds true except for physics. I recently took a Colt AR with an FSB and a 1x6 variable to the range. The problems I encountered were-
    - Reduced light to the optic
    - Blurred image
    - Unable to use the hold over marks

    The front sight does get blurred out but the fact remains you cannot actually see through it. I could not use the hash marks for 300 yards or more because the front sight physically blocked them from the target
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    Things I find useless:

    Vertical foregrips or angled foregrips. Felt good the first time I put one on a rifle. Got in the way as soon as I shot that rifle in any situation except offhand.

    Single point slings. Nut smackers that do nothing better than a two point sling.

    Cheap magnified optics. So much stuff out there that is just junk. There are some good budget options, and then there is junk.

    Poorly thought out reticles. There are lots of optics that are a no-go for me simply because the reticle is so bad. This has improved in the last few years.

    Bling. Rifles with a 'color scheme'. I have no use for it.

    I see no appeal to billet anything unless it adds some useful functionality or a monolithic rail.









    I actually like BAD levers. They just work for me. Mostly it's just dropping or locking back the bolt but I have used them in the process of clearing a double feed and it was faster than without.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndianaBoy View Post
    Poorly thought out reticles. There are lots of optics that are a no-go for me simply because the reticle is so bad. This has improved in the last few years.
    Since you brought it up, WTF is up with having the reticle MRAD but the adjustments be MOA? This is a fail IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by IndianaBoy View Post
    I actually like BAD levers. They just work for me. Mostly it's just dropping or locking back the bolt but I have used them in the process of clearing a double feed and it was faster than without.
    I run BAD levers on my rifles with no issues. I have never cleared a double feed but I do find them convenient for bolt manipulation.

    I laugh at the drama they get on this site. If you do not like it then do not run it, it is that simple. Take it off and obsess over your gas port size.

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    BAD levers are not a positive for all, but they can suit some well, even though they are a minority.
    I would not include them as a net negative to the system in the same way some other offerings are. There is a lot of "crap" parts out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    Your theory holds true except for physics. I recently took a Colt AR with an FSB and a 1x6 variable to the range. The problems I encountered were-
    - Reduced light to the optic
    - Blurred image
    - Unable to use the hold over marks

    The front sight does get blurred out but the fact remains you cannot actually see through it. I could not use the hash marks for 300 yards or more because the front sight physically blocked them from the target
    Not my experience at all with 1-4 and 1-8 optics. Blur was visible if you looked for it, on the low end the FSB was visible but no more an obstruction than a reddot with an FSB.

    MM

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    1. Anything "California Compliant" such as bullet buttons, anything "featureless", 10rd mag limits, or any other state-regulated handicap imposed for notional safety (unfortuntley I live in this communist/socialist shithole and as a result suffer with many "gay-R15 rules").

    2. Cheap lights/lasers with coiled tape switches hanging sloppily off of the (usually wobbly) carbine length railed handgaurd. Your 10,000 lumen gun show table - navy seal - delta - swat - tactical light doesn't need a coiled wire like the kitchen phone from my childhood home.

    3. Grip pods. Hate em. That cubic foots worth of plastic up top at the mounting point makes them horribly unergonomic imo. Usually found mounted beneath the aforementioned wobbly handgaurd and fitted with a strip of sticky back velcro for the aforementioned tape switch.

    4. Cheap "lame point" or "fake-cog" type optics that typically switch between green and red reticules. Invest in good glass or get good shooting with irons (which everyone should be before glassing up in the first place, right?)

    5. Lowers with skulls or a spartan helmet or whatever shaped magwells. That shit is gay. If you own one you probably wear Affliction shirts in public and sit down to pee in private. They should make one that looks like a little misshapen dick cause that's what you'll look like showing that thing off.

    6. 3-point slings. Overly complicated and cumbersome. I've seen bondage gear with less strapping and buckles. It's as if some worker at a sling factory in the late 80's was being paid by the yard to come up with something new.

    7. Pink or purple furniture. I get it. Make em cute with barbie-brand accessories so our girls will like this sport like we do. Cool. Whatever you need to do I suppose. My wife also has an AR. When she was picking out plastics I told her if she went with a bubblegum scheme I wouldnt let it in the safe with any of mine. She rattle-canned it in dull greens like a piece of kale and named it "kale-er" (say it out loud). That combination is sexy. Plus it blends. As a result I'll suffer a vegan restaurant every now and again for her.

    8. Anything "zombie".

    9. This obsession with shaving every possible ounce and gram off of the rifle. Some of these setups are more perforated and porous than a tennis racket. If 7-10lbs is too much rifle for you, get some Kryptek or Multicam yoga pants to prance around in while doing crossfit or whatever.

    10. Those little rail-covers/panels with the gadsen, molon labe, punisher skull, biohazard, III%, 2A, sheepdog, or whatever graphics. Any available rail space does not need to be a sounding board for you to slather with tacky bumper stickers like the bizarro version of a lesbians subaru. Leave the rifle alone. You most likely already have the same patches on your velcro cap.

    Can't think of anything else really. Every shooter's different and what works ergonomically for one doesn't for another. So I don't harp on VFGs (except #3) or AFGs or handstops, buttstocks or whatever. If it fits your form and makes you a better shooter to have your hands/cheek placed a certain way then get at it. My AR setups have evolved considerably over the years and will probably continue to do so. But gimmicky shit is just that. Shit.
    Last edited by 77nodnarb; 11-20-19 at 15:00. Reason: something else got me pissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlander Systems View Post
    I'm late as hell to this party...

    Outlander's Hate List:

    Magpul BAD.
    Aftermarket stocks.
    Aftermarket pistol grips.
    Keymod anything.
    Any optic not made by Aimpoint, EOTech, Trijicon, or Elcan.
    ARs without FSBs.

    Hehehe....

    I have literally every thing you mentioned on my 3-gun rifle.



    To each his own!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77nodnarb View Post
    1. Anything "California Compliant" such as bullet buttons, anything "featureless", 10rd mag limits, or any other state-regulated handicap imposed for notional safety (unfortuntley I live in this communist/socialist shithole and as a result suffer with many "gay-R15 rules").

    2. Cheap lights/lasers with coiled remote switches hanging sloppily off of the (usually wobbly) carbine length railed handgaurd. Your 10,000 lumen gun show table navy seal tactical light doesn't need a cable like the kitchen phone from my childhood home.

    3. Grip pods. Hate em. That cubic foots worth of plastic up top at the mounting point makes them horribly unergonomic imo. Usually found mounted beneath the aforementioned wobbly handgaurd and fitted with a strip of sticky back velcro for the aforementioned tape switch.

    4. Cheap "lame point" or "fake-cog" type optics that typically switch between green and red reticules. Invest in good glass or get good shooting with irons (which everyone should be before glassing up in the first place, right?)

    5. Lowers with skulls or a spartan helmet or whatever shaped magwells. That shit is gay. If you own one you probably wear Affliction shirts in public and sit down to pee in private. They should make one that looks like a little misshapen dick cause that's what you'll look like showing that thing off.

    6. 3-point slings. Overly complicated and cumbersome. I've seen bondage gear with less strapping and buckles. It's as if some worker at a sling factory in the late 80's was being paid by the yard to come up with something new.

    7. Pink or purple furniture. I get it. Make em cute with barbie-brand accessories so our girls will like this sport like we do. Cool. Whatever you need to do I suppose. My wife also has an AR. When she was picking out plastics I told her if she went with a bubblegum scheme I wouldnt let it in the safe with any of mine. She rattle-canned it in dull greens like a piece of kale and named it "kale-er" (say it out loud). That combination is sexy. Plus it blends. As a result I'll suffer a vegan restaurant every now again for her.

    8. Anything "zombie".

    9. This obsession with shaving every possible ounce and gram off of the rifle. Some of these setups are more perforated and porous than a tennis racket. If 7-10lbs is too much rifle for you, get some Kryptek or Multicam yoga pants to prance around in while doing crossfit or whatever.

    10. Those little rail-covers/panels with the gadsen, molon labe, punisher skull, biohazard, III%, 2A, sheepdog, or whatever graphics. Any available rail space does not need to be a sounding board for you to slather with tacky bumper stickers like the bizarro version of a lesbians subaru. Leave the rifle alone. You most likely already have the same patches on your velcro cap.

    Can't think of anything else really. Every shooter's different and what works ergonomically for one doesn't for another. So I don't harp on VFGs (except #3) or AFGs or handstops, buttstocks or whatever. If it fits your form and makes you a better shooter to have your hands/cheek placed a certain way then get at it. My AR setups have evolved considerably over the years and will probably continue to do so. But gimmicky shit is just that. Shit.
    One hell of a 2nd post!

    Magwell grips. Completely useless.

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    No shame in that game, brother.

    Quote Originally Posted by IndianaBoy View Post
    Hehehe....

    I have literally every thing you mentioned on my 3-gun rifle.



    To each his own!

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    Any part, rifle, ammunition named after an elite military unit that was never used by that unit.

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