Realistic AR home defense scenarios--things to think about

[Gunnar da Wolf]

I live in a secluded location. It’s 100+ yards down the mountain to my closest neighbor, my driveway is 300 yards long and you can’t see my house from the main road. Two story house, no kids, few visitors.

I was an LEO for 34 years, my home State has a low crime rate and Castle Doctrine. We have two indoor dogs @80# and 70#(my avatar), he is a hunting breed that is switched on 24/7 the other has an impressive WOOF! once she’s awakened.
My wife is a redhead who is best not awakened.

Come to think of it my 16” AR with WML and H-1, chamber empty but twenty round mag loaded with IMI 77gr SMK ammo sitting by the bed may be a bit redundant...

[26 Inf]

I actually think New Mexico's laws are the issue. There is no right of "self defense" in this state, only justifiable homicide. That's not the only screwed up law. When I worked in law enforcement it was a dirty little secret that if you raped a woman but left her alive, you would do more time in prision than if you killed her in the process, because the penalty for rape (at least in the 1990's) was more severe than non-first degree murder. True story. Of course we didn't advertise that.

I imagine the idea being that if the woman cant testify, it is harder to prove rape, or that the prosecutor would drop the rape charges in return for a plea to the homicide. I think there are a lot of laws like that in every state.

Similarly, IIRC if you shoot a perp and he survives, he can get pain and suffering. I believe that if the family sues after his death, pain and suffering can't be a part of it because he's dead and didn't "suffer". Things could have changed and I could be oversimplifying things, but that was the gist I got.

From the insurance companies perspective, it is probably cheaper to pay a wrongful death judgement, than it is to have to pay for care, or disability for life.

[Doc Safari]

I imagine the idea being that if the woman cant testify, it is harder to prove rape, or that the prosecutor would drop the rape charges in return for a plea to the homicide.

It's the latter, not the former. The autopsy would prove evidence of CSP, without a doubt.

[Mean Bone]

A bit tangential to the original post, but something to consider.

Many states, if you are a licensed amateur radio operator, will allow you to purchase a specialty car tag with your call sign on it. So you, your wife, daughter or other family member are driving around in a vehicle with a tag that any goblin can run and come up with your address. Simply "google" the call sign on your cell and there are many sites that will come up giving the name and address.

Shouldn't be hard to come up with several scenarios where that information could be detrimental if your vehicle or the occupant peaks their interest.
- They run (google) the tag and it comes back to an address in a nice neighborhood, or isolated rural address
- If you're out and about it means you're not home and your home is vulnerable
- Your wife or daughter now have their address exposed to anyone who wants to "google" the tag
- If they see the car at a grocery store they can assume you'll be home soon. Ambush?
- They see you're from out of state but from a town where they have "friends."
- It goes on . . .

Unless you routinely carry, coming home for you or a loved one could be a very bad day. Heck, even if you do carry it's a bad day.

Have a defensive rifle in the house? Is it going to help?

So, if you are a ham operator and have your call sign on your tag, a bumper sticker, a baseball hat left on your dashboard . . . anyone can run it.

[Diamondback]

A bit tangential to the original post, but something to consider.

Many states, if you are a licensed amateur radio operator, will allow you to purchase a specialty car tag with your call sign on it. So you, your wife, daughter or other family member are driving around in a vehicle with a tag that any goblin can run and come up with your address. Simply "google" the call sign on your cell and there are many sites that will come up giving the name and address.

Shouldn't be hard to come up with several scenarios where that information could be detrimental if your vehicle or the occupant peaks their interest.
- They run (google) the tag and it comes back to an address in a nice neighborhood, or isolated rural address
- If you're out and about it means you're not home and your home is vulnerable
- Your wife or daughter now have their address exposed to anyone who wants to "google" the tag
- If they see the car at a grocery store they can assume you'll be home soon. Ambush?
- They see you're from out of state but from a town where they have "friends."
- It goes on . . .

Unless you routinely carry, coming home for you or a loved one could be a very bad day. Heck, even if you do carry it's a bad day.

Have a defensive rifle in the house? Is it going to help?

So, if you are a ham operator and have your call sign on your tag, a bumper sticker, a baseball hat left on your dashboard . . . anyone can run it.

Pilots like to get vanity tags with the N-numbers of their planes, same thing. Any drooling retarded monkey can log onto the FAA website and pull a search on tailnumbers, and unless you have the aircraft registered through a front company or to a PO Box or separate office address of some kind, they've gotcha.

OPSEC, people... Learn It, Live It, Love It! The life it saves may be your own... or more importantly that of one of your loved ones.

[Arik]

A bit tangential to the original post, but something to consider.

Many states, if you are a licensed amateur radio operator, will allow you to purchase a specialty car tag with your call sign on it. So you, your wife, daughter or other family member are driving around in a vehicle with a tag that any goblin can run and come up with your address. Simply "google" the call sign on your cell and there are many sites that will come up giving the name and address.

Shouldn't be hard to come up with several scenarios where that information could be detrimental if your vehicle or the occupant peaks their interest.
- They run (google) the tag and it comes back to an address in a nice neighborhood, or isolated rural address
- If you're out and about it means you're not home and your home is vulnerable
- Your wife or daughter now have their address exposed to anyone who wants to "google" the tag
- If they see the car at a grocery store they can assume you'll be home soon. Ambush?
- They see you're from out of state but from a town where they have "friends."
- It goes on . . .

Unless you routinely carry, coming home for you or a loved one could be a very bad day. Heck, even if you do carry it's a bad day.

Have a defensive rifle in the house? Is it going to help?

So, if you are a ham operator and have your call sign on your tag, a bumper sticker, a baseball hat left on your dashboard . . . anyone can run it.

You're into ham radio right?

Assuming you know what that is. How many avg criminals know ham radios and license#s?



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[Don Quijote]

Because of the kids, you DON'T keep a round in the chamber. That means if you hear glass breaking at 3 am, you've got to chamber a round as quietly as possible

Did you check the flashlight batteries with a quick burst before you went to bed (because you dang sure can't check it now)?

How close is the carbine to your bed? Do you have to get up and open the safe while you hope the perp doesn't pick your room to invade first? Or do you keep your combat weapon nearby?

Has wifey told you "You're not keeping that thing right by the bed at night." ?

Is it handy enough that you can get to it silently?

Let's hope you've had some kind of training in silently patrolling your residence at night.

Have you ever simply just practiced navigating your residence at night in the pitch black without bumping into walls or tripping over things? Maybe you better do it regularly enough to get good at it.

Does any part of your gun rattle? Do your house shoes make enough noise on your tile floors that you give away your position?

Things that I don't worry about are in red. If I get wind of an intruder, being all silent ninja is not part of the plan. The plan is to light up the inside of the house, advance aggressively to the threat, and get rid of it. I want the intruder to know someone is coming for him. If he has half a lick of sense he'll leave before I get to him.

Sneaking around my own house? I prefer violence of action. The faster I win, the better.

According to my state's law, an unlawful intruder in my home or MV is presumed to be there to inflict death or severe injury to the occupants. I'm also immune from civil liability in any justifiable shoot.

[Don Quijote]

If a legit lawyer files a complaint properly alleging the plaintiff's claim, the only way it isn't being heard is if the plantiff's attorney left out something in the filing which enables the defendant to say 'even if all this is true, the plaintiff has shown no right to seek relief

Or if the state in which this happens bars relief from tort claims when the plaintiff was injured or killed during the commission of a violet felony. Like mine.

[Don Quijote]

What do you do if you call 911 and the operator instructs you to put your firearm down/away?

That 911 call is recorded and you were instructed to do so on record (both so you don't shoot LE and they don't mistake you for criminal).

If you shoot the bad guy, you are Zimmerman... the family or criminal may have weak grounds to sue.

If you put the gun down/away... you may have well have started unarmed.

Worst thing to do is argue with 911 on phone

Hang up

[Ron3]

Things that I don't worry about are in red. If I get wind of an intruder, being all silent ninja is not part of the plan. The plan is to light up the inside of the house, advance aggressively to the threat, and get rid of it. I want the intruder to know someone is coming for him. If he has half a lick of sense he'll leave before I get to him.

Sneaking around my own house? I prefer violence of action. The faster I win, the better.

According to my state's law, an unlawful intruder in my home or MV is presumed to be there to inflict death or severe injury to the occupants. I'm also immune from civil liability in any justifiable shoot.

Rushing towards at least one home invader is how to get killed.

Hold. Let them step in front of your muzzle if they want.