Plan Changes due to Current Threats?

[ScottsBad]

You never know what you don't know. It was only a few decades ago that the Pacific NW was not an earthquake zone. Now we know it's a 9.0 every 300 to 500 years with no small quakes in between.

Isn't that interesting. Seems to happen a lot in science. Not surprising however as old axioms must always be re-examined in light of new information. But it begs the question should we really always trust "science". I'm reminded of the global warming debate, and the "settled science".

I think that if there is some type of catastrophic event, man made or natural, we may not see it coming. Therefore, the best we can do is not put ourselves in the way of known problems, and prepare as best we can for the unexpected.

[Moose-Knuckle]

You never know what you don't know. It was only a few decades ago that the Pacific NW was not an earthquake zone. Now we know it's a 9.0 every 300 to 500 years with no small quakes in between.

People use to say "The Big One" referring to the inevitable 8.0+ quake that will hit the San Andreas sometime in the next century. Now it's the Pacific NW, the Cascadia subduction zone. Then there is the New Madrid Seismic Zone that will have intraplate earthquakes in the southern and midwestern states. These quakes are not a matter of "if" but when. USN has COG maps detailing how North America will look vastly different when even one of these occurs. Hell, NASA currently wants to drill the Yellowstone caldera, it's past due and their seeing mucho seismic activity in clusters. That eruption could very well be an ELE.

[Evel Baldgui]

One is either prepared or not. Despite location, home, vacation spot, travel itinerary, I almost always have items that can sustain me during most unanticipated situations. At my suburban home, I have the necessary provisions to 'hunker' down for a fairly extended period of time (3-4months), at my beach condo, the same. Approximately an hour drive time between them. In my vehicle, also have necessary items in case I get delayed or even need to live out of my vehicle for a day or two; sometimes a spur of the moment 4-5 hour drive to see family on a weekend, so car always has 'stuff' in it. Driving from point A to point B check google maps/waze for traffic issues, any planned protests ? alternate routes and avoid area. Get caught up in a blm/antifa/sjw mob scene, I'll drive right through, vehicle subject to unavoidable mob violence, pepper spray/bear mace at the ready; and Mossberg shockwave if things get really sporty, plus Mr Glock and happy stick are always in vehicle as well. Planning and avoidance are always best, but if an unexpected contingency occurs, back up is available.

[Evel Baldgui]

I live in suburb USA. The problem is that I work very close to ground zero. My biggest concern is that these assclowns may ditch there usual methods of destroying the shit holes they live in and go after the "rich" white people's area. This is where it would get real bad real quick.

I live in an armed guard gated rich white people area; I am fairly certain that the antifa/blm crowd won't be barking at the gates anytime soon.

[Outlander Systems]

These guys seem like they'd be a lot of fun at parties:

https://kcmlm.wordpress.com/2017/08/...ce-to-fascism/

[docsherm]

These guys seem like they'd be a lot of fun at parties:

https://kcmlm.wordpress.com/2017/08/...ce-to-fascism/

They do sounds like some fun people. You bring the borsch and I will bring the ammo........


These are the types of people that I was referring to. It only takes a few complete nut-case radicals to take a few shoots at some security guards/ LEOs and the mob would overwhelm them quit fast. If the events in Dallas would have been a little different it could have gotten even worse real fast. If the mob would have started to riot while police were getting shot at and killed things would have turned epicly bad in a way that the US has not seen before.

[ScottsBad]

Antifa and the radical left is a relatively small group compared to Americans who love free speech and abhor leftists dressed it black with sticks. Antifa currently has an outsize impact in the media relative to their group size. In reality, they know they are weak. They are basically losers, criminals, and mentally ill people lashing out like children. They have nothing else.

Is it possible to divide Americans and create enough animus for wide spread violence? I don't think so, but it remains to be seen.

[Todd.K]

I don't think they are currently a very credible threat for widespread long term suburban locations.

[Outlander Systems]

Cough, Kosovo Liberation Army, Cough...

Doc needs no introduction to this, but I'll just leave it here for everyone else.

From the JOC IW:

"Since irregular warfare is a contest for legitimacy and influence over the relevant populations, the populations carry particular weight as both the battleground and object of the conflict. Stealthy adversaries hide among the population, using it as a shield and willing or unwilling helper. These adversaries against unpopular, abusive, or corrupt governments to gain popular support and legitimacy, such as in an insurgency. At other times, the “relevant” population these adversaries are trying to influence could be very particular government or security apparatus officials, commercial activities and businesses, or even groups outside of the host nation and not the general public, as seen with irregular adversaries who have infrastructure links to diasporas and criminal enterprises. These adversaries target civilians to intimidate and coerce them, and expose the inability of the state to provide protection. Given the psychological and political dimensions of the contest, perceptions are as important as any physical reality of the battlefield. Adept adversaries plan their actions around sophisticated communications strategies enabled by the globalization of information and technology. In this age of instant communication, actors have become proficient at crafting their accounts of events into a compelling story or narrative. The intent of this narrative is to influence not only the local population but the global community as well. The battle of the narrative, as this struggle for influence has been called, is waged primarily through critical elements of the population who have formal or informal power or standing to sway the sentiments or induce the compliance of the general population."

In short, IW/UW/AW ain't about Commies mounting nightly raids on Cavitt's Cove Subdivision to raze, rape, and roil.

Think outside the box, folks.

It only takes a few complete nut-case radicals to take a few shoots at some security guards/ LEOs and the mob would overwhelm them quit fast.

[docsherm]

Cough, Kosovo Liberation Army, Cough...

Doc needs no introduction to this, but I'll just leave it here for everyone else.

From the JOC IW:

"Since irregular warfare is a contest for legitimacy and influence over the relevant populations, the populations carry particular weight as both the battleground and object of the conflict. Stealthy adversaries hide among the population, using it as a shield and willing or unwilling helper. These adversaries against unpopular, abusive, or corrupt governments to gain popular support and legitimacy, such as in an insurgency. At other times, the “relevant” population these adversaries are trying to influence could be very particular government or security apparatus officials, commercial activities and businesses, or even groups outside of the host nation and not the general public, as seen with irregular adversaries who have infrastructure links to diasporas and criminal enterprises. These adversaries target civilians to intimidate and coerce them, and expose the inability of the state to provide protection. Given the psychological and political dimensions of the contest, perceptions are as important as any physical reality of the battlefield. Adept adversaries plan their actions around sophisticated communications strategies enabled by the globalization of information and technology. In this age of instant communication, actors have become proficient at crafting their accounts of events into a compelling story or narrative. The intent of this narrative is to influence not only the local population but the global community as well. The battle of the narrative, as this struggle for influence has been called, is waged primarily through critical elements of the population who have formal or informal power or standing to sway the sentiments or induce the compliance of the general population."

In short, IW/UW/AW ain't about Commies mounting nightly raids on Cavitt's Cove Subdivision to raze, rape, and roil.

Think outside the box, folks.

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