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    Ruger gets serious about the AR market?

    Ruger has just announced a new version of their budget based AR-556. This new version (called the MPR) appears to be quite a departure from the earlier offering.

    http://www.ruger.com/products/ar556MPR/models.html

    A few noteworthy points. Ruger is using an 18in 1X8 twist barrel with 5R rifling. The gas system is rifle length with a low pro gas block. Ruger appears to be following the industry with MLOK.

    Questions I have so far. Is the bolt carrier fully shrouded or does it have the "Colt" cut? What barrel nut is used in case a shooter wants to change out the forend for something else? And how is the gas block attached in case the barrel nut needs to be changed? Why 4140 barrel steel rather than 4150?

    Anyway, the new model should compete fairly well with the Springfield Saint and some other AR's that are not quite entry level.

    We'll see how it goes...

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    Last edited by Tokarev; 09-14-17 at 07:38.
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    It's still a Ruger. And Ruger compromised with the gun banners in the late 80s and early 90s. F Ruger.


    Sturm, Ruger & Company's second-quarter sales fell 22 percent from the year-ago quarter.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/03/stur...der-trump.html
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    Colt > BCM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feline View Post
    It's still a Ruger. And Ruger compromised with the gun banners in the late 80s and early 90s. F Ruger.





    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/03/stur...der-trump.html
    Drops in sales is true pretty much across the industry.

    While I understand the long held anger at Bill Ruger for his anti-gun stance during the Clinton years I'd like to point out that Bill is long dead and all that remains with the company is his name.

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    Having not seen it, but knowing about their AR-556.

    1. Not sure why they would depart from the previous BCG as being used in the AR-556. All the stakings I have seen were also bad.

    2. Barrel nut/rail is irrelevant. It's probably unique to that rail and almost all rails come with their own barrel nut.

    3. They are most likely using 4140 because it's been Nitrided. Let's face it, you said yourself they are building it as an entry level gun. Ruger really doesn't know how to build a good AR so it's no surprise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tokarev View Post
    Ruger has just announced a new version of their budget based AR-556. This new version (called the MPR) appears to be quite a departure from the earlier offering.

    http://www.ruger.com/products/ar556MPR/models.html

    A few noteworthy points. Ruger is using an 18in 1X8 twist barrel with 5R rifling. The gas system is rifle length with a low pro gas block. Ruger appears to be following the industry with MLOK.

    Questions I have so far. Is the bolt carrier fully shrouded or does it have the "Colt" cut? What barrel nut is used in case a shooter wants to change out the forend for something else? And how is the gas block attached in case the barrel nut needs to be changed? Why 4140 barrel steel rather than 4150?

    Anyway, the new model should compete fairly well with the Springfield Saint and some other AR's that are not quite entry level.

    We'll see how it goes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Having not seen it, but knowing about their AR-556.

    1. Not sure why they would depart from the previous BCG as being used in the AR-556. All the stakings I have seen were also bad.

    2. Barrel nut/rail is irrelevant. It's probably unique to that rail and almost all rails come with their own barrel nut.

    3. They are most likely using 4140 because it's been Nitrided. Let's face it, you said yourself they are building it as an entry level gun. Ruger really doesn't know how to build a good AR so it's no surprise.
    I don't know about not knowing how to build a good AR. The gun is sixty years old so it shouldn't be too hard to find the info and/or find someone to hire who's been previously involved with manufacturing AR's for military use.

    Just seems odd that 4140 would be used on this rifle when the piston gun line uses 4150. It would seem logical that the two rifles would share as many common parts as possible. Now granted I'm not up on current production. Possibly the latest SR556 has a 4140 barrel.

    I suppose the decision is an economic one. 4140 is probably less expensive?


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    Last edited by Tokarev; 09-14-17 at 09:28.
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    You need to get out more. There are so many junky AR's on the market it's not even funny.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tokarev View Post
    I don't know about not knowing how to build a good AR. The gun is sixty years old so it shouldn't be too hard to find the info and/or find someone to hire who's been previously involved with manufacturing AR's for military use.

    Just seems odd that 4140 would be used on this rifle when the piston gun line uses 4150. It would seem logical that the two rifles would share as many common parts as possible. Now granted I'm not up on current production. Possibly the latest SR556 has a 4140 barrel.

    I suppose the decision is an economic one. 4140 is probably less expensive?


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    AR makers are getting to be as numerous as rock bands. Do we really need Ruger to make AR's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Glockster View Post
    AR makers are getting to be as numerous as rock bands. Do we really need Ruger to make AR's?
    They've been making AR's since 2008-2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    You need to get out more. There are so many junky AR's on the market it's not even funny.
    Oh I know there are plenty of "budget" AR's out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokarev View Post
    They've been making AR's since 2008-2009.

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    And that makes it okay? DPMS and Bushmaster have been making them longer than that? Do we need them either?

    I saw the Ruger AR at a gun show a year or so ago (can't remember exactly). The FSB looked like a cheap casting: one good whack and it's history. Reminded me of what you see on airsoft AR's.

    Can we all just please vote with our dollars and keep this crap off the market?
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