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Thread: Ruger gets serious about the AR market?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Glockster View Post
    And that makes it okay? DPMS and Bushmaster have been making them longer than that? Do we need them either?

    I saw the Ruger AR at a gun show a year or so ago (can't remember exactly). The FSB looked like a cheap casting: one good whack and it's history. Reminded me of what you see on airsoft AR's.

    Can we all just please vote with our dollars and keep this crap off the market?
    Yep, vote with your wallet. And F Ruger.
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    I doubt Ruger's new (or previous) AR format rifles are going to have broad appeal with this board's common membership. Still, the fact can't be ignored that Ruger's a giant in the industry with a diverse product line. More AR's on more shelves and available from more sources is a good thing.

    Just a few decades ago Colt was the only 1911 maker. Or at least the only major source for a complete factory pistol. Those guns generally needed work to run and it was just expected that a new Colt 1911 would have to be sent off to a gunsmith for throating, etc. Competition came in and that's all a different market now. Colt still makes basic guns but they also make versions with Novak sights, etc.

    Good things generally happen when manufacturers are made to compete for business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokarev View Post
    Still, the fact can't be ignored that Ruger's a giant in the industry with a diverse product line. More AR's on more shelves and available from more sources is a good thing.
    Love Ruger revolvers. Love 'em. Ruger makes wheel guns as strong as M1 Abrams tanks. (IMHO).

    But they are not improving one bit on Colt, BCM, etc. with their AR's.

    Just a few decades ago Colt was the only 1911 maker. Or at least the only major source for a complete factory pistol. Those guns generally needed work to run and it was just expected that a new Colt 1911 would have to be sent off to a gunsmith for throating, etc. Competition came in and that's all a different market now. Colt still makes basic guns but they also make versions with Novak sights, etc.

    Good things generally happen when manufacturers are made to compete for business.
    Quantity should not be equated with quality, though. Competition is good, but in the same way cheap Chinese goods have lowered the quality for nearly everything across the board, so a plethora of sub-par AR makers will end up cheapening the quality for every AR in the long run. You like seeing a lot of AR makers? What if the lower quality ones end up putting the higher quality (and therefore higher priced) ones out of business? The Colt Expanse exists for a reason. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Glockster View Post
    And that makes it okay? DPMS and Bushmaster have been making them longer than that? Do we need them either?

    I saw the Ruger AR at a gun show a year or so ago (can't remember exactly). The FSB looked like a cheap casting: one good whack and it's history. Reminded me of what you see on airsoft AR's.

    Can we all just please vote with our dollars and keep this crap off the market?
    Sure, why not! Like handguns, cars, cell phones....buy what you like. I have no interest in Ruger AR but not opposed to them making one

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    What we really need....just like St. Patrick drove the snakes out of Ireland....we need a St. Vickers or something to drive the low quality AR's out of the market.


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    Another way to look at these is as potential investment. It is only a matter of time before Pelosi or Chuck U. try to push the gun control agenda. Maybe not with this president but likely the next.

    Buy them now while they're cheap and available. Stock them away for a rainy day. William Devane has the wrong stuff in his safe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokarev View Post
    Another way to look at these is as potential investment. It is only a matter of time before Pelosi or Chuck U. try to push the gun control agenda. Maybe not with this president but likely the next.

    Buy them now while they're cheap and available. Stock them away for a rainy day. William Devane has the wrong stuff in his safe!

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    Colt 6920 is the only AR you want to buy cheap and stack deep.
    Last edited by Feline; 09-14-17 at 12:22.
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    I've checked out a few Ruger ARs and was not impressed at all, poor or non-existent staking, real gritty actions and WTF with monstrosity of a FSB.
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    I actually think Ruger's newest addition seems like a pretty reasonable idea for its intended market. I seems like a poor mans SPR in its set up and within 6 months these will probably be sub $600. A good percentage of AR shooters out their seem to mount a relatively inexpensive 3x9 scope on their budget ARs and for that shooter, this Ruger is a much better option since it has a free float rail and an improved trigger over your standard S&W Sports, DPMS, etc...

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    The 2stage trigger Ruger is making is pretty decent. It is similar in design to the Geissele by using one pin for the trigger and disconnector. It isn't quite as clean and the G2S but it is a nice change from the stock military type.

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    Last edited by Tokarev; 09-14-17 at 13:08.
    “The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

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