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Thread: Benchmark Times to Shoot For With Your AR15 - An M4C Collaboration Project

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    If it gets stickied, everyone will just scroll past it like the rest of the stickies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    If it gets stickied, everyone will just scroll past it like the rest of the stickies.
    This.

    Just go shoot, guys.

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    Shot the mnq for the first time yesterday. Had good runs standing and kneeling but had a heck of a time prone. Shooting a 1-6 and could not get a good position. Kept losing the reticle. I know where to practice.

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    Today's mediocre results on the MNQ using Jeff Gonzales' scoring method of 2 pts for every sec over 24 and 5 for every thing out of the 8 ring...

    No clean quals today...

    16" mid Sionics with Steiner 1x4 on 4X
    1-38.43", 1 miss = 31
    2-36.52, 2 miss = 32
    3-35.50, 5 miss = DNQ (47)

    6920 with T-1 RDS
    1-36.50", 4 miss = DNQ (44)
    2-33.09", 2 miss = 28

    Definitely gotta work on standing and kneeling and the transition between the two.

    Interesting that my best run was with the T-1 not the the Steiner. Almost 100 degrees in the Republic today, and my glasses were fogging from the heat and sweat, so that might have contributed to the better result using the T1, not sure. The reticle on the Steiner was getting blurry by the third run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTF425 View Post
    This.

    Just go shoot, guys.
    Yup thats my plan, at 71 and a few replacement parts it's my game, and bad news for the bad guys. Range time today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightchief View Post
    . Almost 100 degrees in the Republic today, and my glasses were fogging from the heat and sweat, so that might have contributed to the better result using the T1, not sure. The reticle on the Steiner was getting blurry by the third run.
    I hate that. I keep a microfiber in my bag to wipe my forehead and glasses down. Sometimes the sweat is so bad it drips on to my eye pro. I need a sweatband like an 80s pop star!

    Also, don’t forget the MNQ is only one drill in the toolbox. You might shoot it better with the T1 but how do you think you’d compare between that and the Steiner if you were shooting 8” gongs at 300y?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    I hate that. I keep a microfiber in my bag to wipe my forehead and glasses down. Sometimes the sweat is so bad it drips on to my eye pro. I need a sweatband like an 80s pop star!

    Also, don’t forget the MNQ is only one drill in the toolbox. You might shoot it better with the T1 but how do you think you’d compare between that and the Steiner if you were shooting 8” gongs at 300y?
    We did other drills yesterday. Different targets at different ranges and moving. I think he did better with his Steiner then his reflex sights.

    And it was HOT......... VERY HOT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    I hate that. I keep a microfiber in my bag to wipe my forehead and glasses down. Sometimes the sweat is so bad it drips on to my eye pro. I need a sweatband like an 80s pop star!

    Also, don’t forget the MNQ is only one drill in the toolbox. You might shoot it better with the T1 but how do you think you’d compare between that and the Steiner if you were shooting 8” gongs at 300y?
    Microfiber cloth is a really good idea. Simple. No doubt about using a T1 on a 8” gong at 300 yds, I wouldn’t be able to see the gong at 300.

    LPV is a must (for me anyway) for targets beyond 100 yards. I was out yesterday and we were running some drills engaging multiple targets (C Zone steels) at different distances. It was all within 50 yds, but if it was much beyond that, the LPV would be really start to outshine the EO Tech, as magnification would be needed just to identify the targets.

    The other shooter, who was also running an LPV, mentioned the target acquiring speed with the EO Tech at our distance. We discussed doing a similar drill at 100 or greater and how the LPV would overtake the dot sight. I think if we try this drill at 100 or greater, we’ll add some no shoots too, so target identification becomes an issue.

    As we progressed through the drills, incorporating moving to different shooting locations, and using representative cover, I began to miss the hits. The added problem solving of moving, re-acquiring, changing mags, and increasing heart rate impacted my performance. This just comes back full circle to the MNQ, as it does works on all but the moving part.

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    Good thread! I’m gonna have to try some of these to add some spice up to my range time.

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    Thanks for all the good information and how to train videos.

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