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    Quote Originally Posted by C-grunt View Post
    Here is a drill we run at work. We call it the Navy SEAL drill as one of our officers who is a former SEAL introduced it to us.

    Target is a silhouette with an 8 inch circle target zone. We use a TQ-19-AZ target.
    Distance is 50 yards.
    3 magazines with 5 rounds each.

    Drill starts standing. On the buzzer fire 5 rounds. Reload. Then move to intermediate position (ie kneeling). Fire 5 rounds. Reload. Move to prone. Fire 5 rounds.

    Par time is 25 seconds. Every second over is +2 seconds. Every shot out of the 8 inch circle is +5 seconds. Every shot off of silhouette is +10 seconds.

    A good time is under 40 seconds
    And also quite useful if you are at a shorter distance range that would not allow a lot of moving between lines. That describes a lot of indoor or more urban settings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-grunt View Post
    Here is a drill we run at work. We call it the Navy SEAL drill as one of our officers who is a former SEAL introduced it to us.

    Target is a silhouette with an 8 inch circle target zone. We use a TQ-19-AZ target.
    Distance is 50 yards.
    3 magazines with 5 rounds each.

    Drill starts standing. On the buzzer fire 5 rounds. Reload. Then move to intermediate position (ie kneeling). Fire 5 rounds. Reload. Move to prone. Fire 5 rounds.

    Par time is 25 seconds. Every second over is +2 seconds. Every shot out of the 8 inch circle is +5 seconds. Every shot off of silhouette is +10 seconds.

    A good time is under 40 seconds
    I just ran this twice.

    My best time was ~28.35 (I donít remember exact but itís on video) with one miss. By my
    Math thatís 39.35?

    My second was ~31.5 sec with no misses. Which I guess is 43.5?

    Iím out here at the Range Iím gonna try one more time cuz I know I can get 25 with no misses.

    ETA ran it a third time. 24.42 with no misses. Got it all on a GoPro and 2 witnesses.
    Last edited by Eurodriver; 10-07-17 at 17:57.

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    video now in OP
    Last edited by Eurodriver; 10-08-17 at 12:25.

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    Eurodriver, can't say when it'll be, but because I *know* I'm gonna suck I'm gonna offer my own scores for posting as a benchmark about "you REALLY suck if you can't beat Tactical Newman." lol
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    Cool! Good marksmanship drill. Did you try it support sided too by chance? In my case, I see better when I shoot left, but I run the gun better on my right, I suppose partly because of the controls on the rifle. I'm cross eyed dominant which is a PIA sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightchief View Post
    Cool! Good marksmanship drill. Did you try it support sided too by chance? In my case, I see better when I shoot left, but I run the gun better on my right, I suppose partly because of the controls on the rifle. I'm cross eyed dominant which is a PIA sometimes.
    That begets two suggestions. First, Chief, maybe see about some kind of offset cantilever rig to bring the sights over so you can "shoot right but look left" like cross-dominant Marine and Gold Medalist Bill McMillan used to do by tilting his 1911s about 45 degrees in Olympic competition? (I usually use this myself when firing support hand.) Maybe 45-degree offset irons might help you too.

    Second, re the course of fire, maybe add a second run off-side at like half- or 3/4-weight? (Say, if "Par" is 25 seconds strong-side maybe 33-50 off-side.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    That begets two suggestions. First, Chief, maybe see about some kind of offset cantilever rig to bring the sights over so you can "shoot right but look left" like cross-dominant Marine and Gold Medalist Bill McMillan used to do by tilting his 1911s about 45 degrees in Olympic competition? (I usually use this myself when firing support hand.) Maybe 45-degree offset irons might help you too.

    Second, re the course of fire, maybe add a second run off-side at like half- or 3/4-weight? (Say, if "Par" is 25 seconds strong-side maybe 33-50 off-side.)
    I've resisted setting up my rifle with a unique sighting set up or lots of ambi controls for this reason: If I have to use a different rifle than my own, its likely not to have all the extras. I feel I need to be sufficient with a rifle that only has standard controls. The only thing I have added to mine is a ambi selector and a 12 o'clock mounted light switch. I shoot ok right eyed, just better left eyed. It's more of an issue when shooting a handgun actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightchief View Post
    I've resisted setting up my rifle with a unique sighting set up or lots of ambi controls for this reason: If I have to use a different rifle than my own, its likely not to have all the extras. I feel I need to be sufficient with a rifle that only has standard controls. The only thing I have added to mine is a ambi selector and a 12 o'clock mounted light switch. I shoot ok right eyed, just better left eyed. It's more of an issue when shooting a handgun actually.
    Gotcha. Would maybe a left-side tilt, "fixing" with meatware rather than hardware like the McMillan Tilt with pistols, be a viable possibility? (As a lefty, I don't use BAD Levers since I can smack the bolt catch with support hand once I've stuffed the mag in--and I like ambi mag catches on my pistols but not rifles; if I'm shooting with a rifle I have a little response time but my pistols are built for CQB where every millisecond counts.)
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    I like that running drill Euro, especially as I don't need to worry about getting wet here :P I'm curious to see how I do at that and the Navy Qual.

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    All I know is Euro is shooting his guns, as usual, and walking the walk

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