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Thread: Mueller Files first Charges (MUELLER CONTENT GOES HERE)

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    Quote Originally Posted by flenna View Post
    So President Trump is like Kevin Costner in No Way Out?
    I'm thinking he's more like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day.

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    The "immaculate obstruction", I called that probably a year ago.

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    These deep staters sure like to take a dookie in the middle of the room on their way out, just to keep the stench going. McCain and the Dems with the Dossier, which lead to Comey and his memos, which lead to the Meuller investigation, which leaves the Obstruction dookie- which he wasn't asked to pinch off- in the middle of the room. Compare that to the shit-eating that the deep state does to protect Clinton.

    Let's be clear that for many Dems, Trump just calling the investigation a 'witch hunt' and even think about firing people is enough for obstruction- so no matter what Meuller found or says, they would be all in.


    Sen. Graham had a presser today and brought up a point I've made since the start- the Dossier itself is a Russian attack on the election system. That the Russians weren't pro anyone- they wanted to make Americans hate other Americans. That the Dossier could be such crazy stuff and still get traction, just shows how it was essentially another 'hack' of the Dem party. There is no other way to accurately describe it since the Dossier parts that matter (remember a lie that is only partially untrue is more powerful than one wholly false) aren't true.- You can only say that they are untrue. After the amount of time and effort to see if they are true that has been spent- they aren't true. One example was the use of Russian retirees in Florida to funnel money. Not that hard to find out when you look with the power of the US govt over 2 years.


    Just another level of hack in a new way- misinformation. And misinformation is going to just get worse and worse and more effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeOtherGuy View Post
    I'm thinking he's more like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day.
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    You guys are just an echo chamber!!! Lol
    Queue the Never Trumpers in 3...2...1
    Do you even get down innagrass, bro?

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    I'm sure they will be along shortly to offer an apology...

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    So here’s my take on all this mess, some predictions and suggestions (for what they’re worth).

    Mueller was ostensibly charged with investigating Russian “interference” with the election, which he did investigate. However, almost immediately the scope of the investigation was widened well beyond that mandate, to include conducting a criminal investigation on all known Trump associates and anyone even loosely connected with the Trump Campaign. This included activities by those individuals that far predated Trump even deciding to run for president, by years and in some cases a decade.

    The purpose of this “widening” was to obtain coercion/extortion material against them, in order to make them “flip” on Trump. Obviously this had nothing to do with any evidence whatsoever that Trump did anything wrong during the campaign, it’s just how the Feds operate. It’s SOP.

    Foolishly and beyond all reason, several Trump associates allowed the Muller team to entrap them in perjury traps. All they had to do was literally nothing at all. Just call your attorneys and STFU while they do what you pay them for.

    Despite falling for Mueller’s traps, they still either couldn’t or wouldn’t give Mueller anything with which to bag a sitting president. Ultimately the Mueller investigation exhaustively probed Trump and his inner circle for any faults to exploit, but found none.

    Whether you think the sun shines out of Mueller’s ass or think he’s the Devil incarnate, no one can dismiss the scope and extent of the probe. It is literally epic in proportions.

    •675 days

    •$25.2 Million Dollars

    •19 DoJ Attorneys

    •40+ FBI Agents

    •2,800 Subpoenas

    •500 Search Warrants

    •230 Orders for communications records

    •50 Orders for “Pen Registers”

    •13 Requests to foreign governments for evidence

    •500 Witnesses interviewed

    •27 Foreign Nationals Indicted

    •7 U.S. Persons Indicted (for crimes unrelated to the election or Trump Campaign)

    •0 U.S. Persons Indicted for “Collusion”, Conspiracy, Election Tampering or anything related to the election or Trump Campaign



    Regardless of what you personally think of POTUS, it is crystal clear that he did not do anything to undermine the integrity of the U.S. election. He played by their rules and beat them fair and square. There isn’t even a scintilla of evidence that the actual Russian election interference had an impact on the election or its results.

    What really happened? It’s pretty simple really. The Hillary Campaign commissioned an opposition research file by a foreign intelligence agent. When the commissioned file failed to produce confirmable and actionable intelligence against Trump, it was shopped outside the Hillary Campaign. There it found a willing carrier in the form of one Sen. John S. McCain, who was still smarting over Trump’s disparagement of him.

    McCain reached out to his buddy Comey, who had already short-sheeted the Republicans by utterly botching the Hillary investigation (intentionally I believe) and letting her off the hook (but not before violating FBI SOP in order to further inflate his own ego).

    Comey not only ensured a politically motivated “foreign intelligence” investigation into Trump & Associates, he leaked the Steele dossier to Buzzfeed via his intermediary. This was done in order to ensure the Trump and his Administration were undermined before they ever assumed office.

    From there Trump assumes office and attempts to determine who within the holdover administration can be trusted. The answer is of course, no one except DoJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz and NSA Director Adm. Mike Rogers. Everyone else is a duplicitous snake wit political motivations against Trump.

    We could spend decades listing and categorizing the foes aligned against Trump within the ranks of the Dems, Republicans and so-called “career professionals” who were feebly described as apolitical. While this is purely my opinion, one need look no further for the eye of this storm than former CIA Director John Brennan and his little butt nugget, former DNI James Clapper (yes Clapper was ostensibly Brennan’s boss, but Brennan was the real power broker of the two).

    My take is that if we were ever allowed to see and know every last detail of this sordid chapter in U.S. history, what we’d find is truly a deep state conspiracy within the U.S. to corrupt the election and undermine the entire U.S. Administrative Branch of our government. These people had their own agenda and they're willing to do anything to support it. That agenda was to get Hillary elected so they could continue dirty dealing as long as possible, and conceal their dirty dealing by wagging the dog once they lost.

    Now for my controversial opinion. I honestly don’t believe President Obama was involved in this conspiracy. At all. From the start of the election cycle, I and many others spotted a reticence by Obama to fully engage in the fray. The media passed it off as Obama being toxic to Democrat candidates and using him would do more harm than good. I believe he knew Hillary was as dirty as the day is long and wanted nothing to do with her and the conspiracy.

    With that said, what will happen next? Oh it’s really quite simple. Public figures like Schiff and Nadler will continue to poke and prod as long and hard as they can to “get” Trump. On the PR front, former Obama officials like Brennan, Clapper, Hayden, Rhodes, Rice, etc. will continue to attack Trump while propping up their own credibility in the war. Why do we see this more from the intelligence side of the Obama Administration and not the DoJ side? Because Hillary knew the real power brokers are the spooks and that’s who she aligns with far more on a philosophical level. Not to mention the fact that spooks don’t indict politicians, DoJ does.

    Anyway, the left will not tuck their tails and run. No, they’re going to double down on an off suit hand and try to bluff. They’ll use the Intelligence and Judiciary committees in the House to go after Trump, while simultaneously back-channeling classified intel to the DoJ Southern District of New York (SDNY), who are still pissed that Trump fired their golden boy Preet Bharara. They will go down swinging and throwing s#!t at the wall hoping something sticks.

    So what should Trump do? Well the philosophical side of me thinks the idea of revenge is great. I’d love to see him declassify the entire Mueller report with ZERO redactions. I think he should take it a step further and declassify the ENTIRE investigation, to include the FISA warrants and pen registers, including everything that came before Mueller entered the picture, again with ZERO redactions. I also think he should use the NSA to investigate every Obama official who aligned against him and expose their secrets. Then go scorched earth. Open source/crowd source every kilobyte of data and let them burn it all to the ground.

    Now that I’m done fantasizing, I think Trump should hold some extremely secret meetings with senior opposition figures and strike a deal. Just let them know that he has incredibly damaging information about what transpired. He should let them know that a “win/win” compromise that would benefit and unify the country is on the table, but if they insist on continuing the ridiculous Russian collusion attacks, he’s willing to dump it all on the open market, even if it results in another American Revolution.

    In the interim, he needs to assert Executive Privilege and sever all communications with Nadler, Schiff, and any members of the House or Senate Intelligence and Judiciary committees demanding further information on this mess. Then he needs to set about ignoring the left, while fulfilling every campaign promise he can in the 21 months he has left before the 2020 election. He also needs to remind GOP foes like Little Marco, that their transgressions will not be forgotten and do what must be done to unseat them.

    That’s my take on this mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegademiC View Post
    ObviouslyMuller was bought off.

    We need an investigation of the investigation

    OK fine, lets go back to beginning and start with Hillary.
    Wouldn't that be a crazy turn of events if all the leftist squawking is what landed the old toad in prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by titsonritz View Post
    OK fine, lets go back to beginning and start with Hillary.
    Wouldn't that be a crazy turn of events if all the leftist squawking is what landed the old toad in prison.
    As much as she deserves it, we don't want hr incarcerated, we WANT her to keep running every four years for two reasons:
    1. Sucks the air out of the room smothering the next generation's room to grow a bench.
    2. Thoroughly unlikable candidate keeps poisoning the well, turning ever more people against her and her party.

    Hillary Candidacy is a gift that keeps on giving, as long as Trump gets off his fat ass and gets serious about rooting out the heresy in the Deep State.
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    As long as she begins her eternal torment in Hell, soon, I could care less if she runs again or puts on prison greys.

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