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Firefly
Fly - don't misunderstand me, I'm for immigration control. For nearly 20 years I've been saying - 1) step one - make the border duck butt tight; 2) step two - throw CEO's/business owners in jail if they hire illegals; 3) step three - path for citizenship for those that are already here and established with a work history and no conviction history. I know that is not what many want, but that is the way I have always felt. IMO is the humane and just way to do it based on our history of 'wink, winking' as businesses were using illegals as cheap labor for industrial and farming jobs most American wouldn't take.
If we removed some of the Socialist Labor laws, Affirmative Action, minimum wage, Obamacare (which will never truly die),and tax burdens; we have people already here who could pick fruit and work construction without picking up God knows who from God knows where at a 7-11 parking lot to work under the table.
Not being hateful, but when was the last time you worked even close to a minimum wage job? I'm asking because:
The median annual Police Patrol Officer salary in Atlanta, GA is $51,906, as of January 02, 2018, with a range usually between $48,464-$56,566 not including bonus and benefit information and other factors that impact base pay.
You would probably say that isn't a great salary, but the median at $51,906 works out to $24.95 an hour. So based on that, what is a living wage? So would you be willing to pick fruit or work construction at $5.00 an hour? $7.00? What would it take to get you to do those jobs?
And would you want to be a cop if all forms of social assistance were cut? Seems to me that would bring a dramatic increase in crime and, therefore, violence. I'm not advocating right or wrong on our current social welfare system, I'm just speaking to the likely foreseeable consequences of shutting her down cold turkey.
There was a time when Company Stores were a thing and people knew they had a future with a company and even if they branched off it was seen as a step-stone and not as outright competition and there was more cooperation and franchising.
When you talk 'company stores' are you talking about Appalachian coal mining type company stores? Because there was truth to the lines 'You load sixteen tons, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt. Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go, I owe my soul to the company store.'
To me, the modern day enmity between worker and employer began when employers began viewing employees as assets and not people. That was when the last vestiges of the 'ethical social contract' between employer and employee disappeared.
Loyalty up and down has largely disappeared, but loyalty down disappeared first, largely because, as I said, employees are viewed as assets not people, and companies are run strictly to maximize profit and/or to pay dividends to stockholders.
In reality CEO's don't work for their companies, they work for the funds that own controlling shares of stocks.
Now most American Industry is essentially treated like Junior's first summer job with an expectation of turnover, fewer opportunities, and a "last guy to quit, please turn off the lights" mentality
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