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    Industry professionals

    Is there a list of the "Industry Professionals" and what company/s they're associated with?

    i like to know where they are coming from and be able to interpret their points of view.
    "you give peace a chance, I'll stay here and cover you, in case it doesn't work out"

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    This forum designates a very choice few members with the title of Industry Professional. These are individuals who have extensive first hand experience with the deployment of small arms, execution of proper tactics, or development of the past or current military weapons platforms. Generally speaking, they are well compensated for the information that they provide; and providing information on a free internet forum is a service to us all. Often in an internet forum other posters may not recognize the individual behind certain screen names or have checked their screen name bio. This title is a helpful tool for a viewer to identify such individuals. You are welcome to disagree with their opinion (debate is one of the best ways to fully understand and exchange information), but please take a moment to recognize where their experience and information comes from.

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    Thumbs up

    I've only been exposed to the AR for the last year or so, and needless to say quite hooked on 'em, and the resources here are top notch. It's great to have those in the know actively involved and being able to access this information for free is invaluable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theJanitor View Post
    Is there a list of the "Industry Professionals" and what company/s they're associated with?

    i like to know where they are coming from and be able to interpret their points of view.
    J, did a good job explaining this. Generally speaking though, the majority of the IP's work for Uncle Sam and NOT for a company.


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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    J, did a good job explaining this. Generally speaking though, the majority of the IP's work for Uncle Sam and NOT for a company.


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    Perhaps "Industry Professional" is not the precise term for this then.

    Industry, by definition, means private sector companies. "Industry professionals" work with "Uncle Sam professionals" to develop solutions to meet their operational needs. Industry professionals often refer to Uncle Sam professionals as soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, troopers, warfighters, end users, or just plain old "customers". These are the people who have first hand experience on how to deploy solutions in a real-world environment.

    As you imply, the experience part is the MOST critical aspect of the equation, and what makes their opinions more valuable by far than those of others. Industry professionals can have a lot of knowledge -- and know of ways to solve end user problems they may have never imagined -- but first hand experience beats "knowledge" every time. However, to solve problems effectively the two MUST work together!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueForce View Post
    Perhaps "Industry Professional" is not the precise term for this then.
    Actually it is as it pertains to THIS forum. M4C's view of what a true Industry Professional is someone that pulls a trigger for a living. Someone that is well versed in Tactics, Weapons and Real World experience.
    Other forums might have a different view of what an IP is, but this is ours.

    Industry, by definition, means private sector companies. "Industry professionals" work with "Uncle Sam professionals" to develop solutions to meet their operational needs. Industry professionals often refer to Uncle Sam professionals as soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, troopers, warfighters, end users, or just plain old "customers". These are the people who have first hand experience on how to deploy solutions in a real-world environment.
    As I said, IP means different things to different people. On other forums you can buy the title of "Industry Professional", but not here. You must earn it.

    As you imply, the experience part is the MOST critical aspect of the equation, and what makes their opinions more valuable by far than those of others. Industry professionals can have a lot of knowledge -- and know of ways to solve end user problems they may have never imagined -- but first hand experience beats "knowledge" every time. However, to solve problems effectively the two MUST work together!
    The other type of person that can qualify for IP status is a weapon designer. We have the SCAR and M16A2 developers on this forum as well. There are also exceptions to the rule, but they must be voted in by their peers and are generally thought of as a SME in a particular area.



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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Actually it is as it pertains to THIS forum. M4C's view of what a true Industry Professional is someone that pulls a trigger for a living. Someone that is well versed in Tactics, Weapons and Real World experience.
    Other forums might have a different view of what an IP is, but this is ours.
    Thanks C4IGrant. FYI, my comment was regarding how industry and the DoD end user community views this, not any particular internet communities of interest. I have little knowledge in that area and will differ to you on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Katar View Post
    This forum designates a very choice few members with the title of Industry Professional. These are individuals who have extensive first hand experience with the deployment of small arms, execution of proper tactics, or development of the past or current military weapons platforms. Generally speaking, they are well compensated for the information that they provide; and providing information on a free internet forum is a service to us all. Often in an internet forum other posters may not recognize the individual behind certain screen names or have checked their screen name bio. This title is a helpful tool for a viewer to identify such individuals. You are welcome to disagree with their opinion (debate is one of the best ways to fully understand and exchange information), but please take a moment to recognize where their experience and information comes from.
    thank you. i understand that they have valuable insight and information, but all professionals (in any field) have their own area of expertise and different points of views to accompany them.

    Most of the IP's have some sort of info about themselves somewhere, either on their sig lines or in their profile, but a few have none. i don't want to bother anyone and ask, nor do i want to make incorrect assumptions about them or their experience.

    thanks again for your responses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theJanitor View Post
    thank you. i understand that they have valuable insight and information, but all professionals (in any field) have their own area of expertise and different points of views to accompany them.

    Most of the IP's have some sort of info about themselves somewhere, either on their sig lines or in their profile, but a few have none. i don't want to bother anyone and ask, nor do i want to make incorrect assumptions about them or their experience.

    thanks again for your responses.

    Kent
    Discussing these topics on the internet is tricky business. Often the people with the best, most relevant information can't share it, nor are they able to identify themselves in any kind of public forum. Nature of the beast. Others could potentially share relevant information, but not be able to identify themselves, in which case readers would question their advise. Still others can both share relevant information and identify themselves. They are probably the most useful contributors and highly saught individuals in a venue like this. Few fit into that category.

    (Of course there are those with neither relevant information nor credentials, who offer advise freely none-the-less... There is no shortage of these!)

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    I would say, that one of the best parts about this forum, is that not only are there the folks here who have the answers and experience, but that the body collective polices its own ranks... those IPs that ring in on something here, are the ones that are best qualified to speak to the subject at hand.
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