Red dot or 1-6 or 1-4 for home defense

[Striker6]

As the post above says, leave that shit at 1x. Why the **** would you be fumbling with magnification levels?

This.
Store the optic on 1x it’s a non issue.

[Dr. Bullseye]

This.
Store the optic on 1x it’s a non issue.

So, by this post, you are admitting 1X is for home defense. Then why not just use irons or a red dot to start with?

[jsbhike]

So, by this post, you are admitting 1X is for home defense. Then why not just use irons or a red dot to start with?

Maybe not fully trusting batteries/electronics and eye sight not being the best with irons. Astigmatism may nix some on the red dot too.

In theory, anything should work at in house distance, but in practice plenty of misses occur at not much more than arms length.

[Dr. Bullseye]

Maybe not fully trusting batteries/electronics and eye sight not being the best with irons. Astigmatism may nix some on the red dot too.

In theory, anything should work at in house distance, but in practice plenty of misses occur at not much more than arms length.

I never had a battery which didn't fail, so I hear you, and I am concerned about this.

[Inkslinger]

In theory, anything should work at in house distance, but in practice plenty of misses occur at not much more than arms length.

Absolutely. Unless you’re up against a hostage situation, a front sight alone is more than adequate to make hallway distance shots. Hell, you probably don’t even need that...

[Striker6]

So, by this post, you are admitting 1X is for home defense. Then why not just use irons or a red dot to start with?

Where did I “admit” 1x is better vs anything else. You’re either making false assumptions or trying to put words in people’s mouths. You made up a scenario where changing magnification was an added task. I simply stated that it was alleviated by storing the optic in its 1x configuration.

[Dr. Bullseye]

Where did I “admit” 1x is better vs anything else. You’re either making false assumptions or trying to put words in people’s mouths. You made up a scenario where changing magnification was an added task. I simply stated that it was alleviated by storing the optic in its 1x configuration.

Since you want to argue where no argument was meant, I'll bite. If 1X is not the best for home defense in your mind, why bother to go through the "added task" of changing magnification to sort it in the first place? These are your words, right? You must have a reason for it, right? What is that reason? Or is that "added task" some sort of storage ritual for you?

[Striker6]

Since you want to argue where no argument was meant, I'll bite. If 1X is not the best for home defense in your mind, why bother to go through the "added task" of changing magnification to sort it in the first place? These are your words, right? You must have a reason for it, right? What is that reason? Or is that "added task" some sort of storage ritual for you?

What are you even talking about guy?
You keep saying that I said or implied that 1x or variable is best for home defense. Quote where I said one was better than the other or leave the conversation. You just said “these are your words, right.” No those are not my words and apparently reading comprehension is not working for you. You originally stated that fumbling with magnification when you’re sleepy adds a level of difficulty to a situation. I gave an option on how to alliviate your said problem. For some unknown reason you keep saying that I am saying magnification is better than 1x given the scenario that you described. I will say it again for you: leaving a lpvo on its 1x eliminates your concerns about not having the dexterity to change the magnification power.
Now show a quote from me saying anything other than that. Lastly I will add that if you currently do not have “storage ritual” where you set your firearms to a standard ready or “storage” standard, then you should for no other reason than standardized safety.

[Dr. Bullseye]

Striker6, Let's review. We are discussing a rife especially set up for home defense---nothing else. My position is 1x, as red dot or as irons, are going to be better for home defense, especially inside the house, than a multi power scope these are for reasons I stated and reasons you have cited me. If you have a milti power scope, do you want to fumble around with power settings in a dark emergency? For what reason would you have a dedicated rifle for home defense with multiple levels of magnification? The only possible outcome of fumbling around in the dark is a bad one.

You propose setting your multi power, dedicated home defense rifle at 1x and given no rational as to why. You give no rational as to why your dedicated home defense is multi power. Now you even evade questions as to why you would set the rife at 1x. Yet, you attack me personally:

"making false assumptions or trying to put words in people’s mouths. You made up a scenario where changing magnification was an added task"

I don't want to put words in your mouth so you tell us, why would you ever have a milti power rifle for dedicated home defense. And then please tell us why your milti power scope, which you say you store at 1x, is better than natural one power (irons) or a red dot at one power.

[Wake27]

Holy. Shit. Obviously 1x is best for CQB. The beauty of an LPVO is that you can store it at 1x and not have to fumble with a damn thing. BUT, if you're doing anything besides CQB (which most people probably use their primary rifle for more than one role...), LPVOs allow you to increase the zoom so that you can see better at distance. That's why they're more better and stuff. As long as the scope is a decent one, the 1x will be close enough that with a little practice, you can be almost as fast as a red dot, and definitely faster than irons. All with an etched reticle that will still be there if the dot dies.