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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassIIIGunsmith View Post
    funny thing is these are cheaper than it cost to build one with nice parts for $100 less. P.S. NDS has lowers back in stock again if you want them in black, just ordered the XM16E1 lower today! (been waiting for 8 months)
    Probably but I have about 4 different rifle builds going on so I buy over time and it doesn't hurt as much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    MM, it looks like plastic, and a Commercial-spec ("designed to fit both tubes") from what Mike in their tech department told me.

    I did mention that the folks who drop hardcore coin for prebuilt retro models might be a little less than enthused by commercial stock wiggling on milspec tube... pity, for a minute I thought my ship had come in finding a stock source for the girlfriend's C8.
    Thanks for the info. Yeah, it looked like plastic to me. I was hoping that we'd get an alternate source of aluminum CAR repro stocks besides Essential Arms. AFAIK, Troy doesn't sell their stocks from their retro rifles, and neither does Colt.

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    I was in the military but it was in the M16A2 service rifle era. I have a Colt SP1 and it is bad ass. I love it and one of my nephews will get it when I tip over. I wouldn't choose it to clear buildings with, but that ain't really the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM Engineer View Post
    Like I said above, the link in the original post has part-by-part details for each model gun. Receivers forged by NDS, upper machined by Brownells, lower machined by Aero.
    Well I was half right. Forged by NDS. Actually I think I was typing my post when you posted the link, but I see that now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by militarymoron View Post
    Thanks for the info. Yeah, it looked like plastic to me. I was hoping that we'd get an alternate source of aluminum CAR repro stocks besides Essential Arms. AFAIK, Troy doesn't sell their stocks from their retro rifles, and neither does Colt.
    Tony's Customs has aluminum mil-spec CAR stocks as well. They do not have the correct glossy finish like Essential Arm's stock has.

    https://www.tonyscustomsllc.com/prod...tock-aluminum/
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    I'm in the market for a M-16A1 clone but I can't get over how shitty those handguards look. Soooooo cloooooose...
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    This is a good thing. A1s just evoke a turbulent time but are quintessentially a "good guy" gun. Be it seeing black and white GIs slogging through the marsh with a short Puerto Rican 60 gunner or seeing a guy standing post at the iron curtain.

    Heck, I say get one of these, a GI RIA, and a set of OG-107s.

    The A1 is becoming in the same pantheon as the 03A3 and the M1 Garand. It is only recently that the Vietnam Veterans are seen with the dignity they deserve and it is long overdue. And also a shame as far too many are not here to see it. These were the rifles of our fathers.

    An SR-15 could smoke an A1, truly. But SR-15s weren't carried in Vietnam.

    We should be grateful. Colt promised "collector" CAR-15s and A1s but I don't know if they ever actually came out (I know the price was obscene and weren't even Hartford guns).

    In time, as with all generations, the last Vietnam Veteran will draw his last breath. The youngest is already in his mid 60s. This is a way to remember and honor before they become dead men living only in pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade04 View Post
    Tony's Customs has aluminum mil-spec CAR stocks as well. They do not have the correct glossy finish like Essential Arm's stock has.
    I looked at those as well when I was shopping around but eventually bought the EA. It might not be bad for a 609-type retro build with a non-coated stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    This is a good thing. A1s just evoke a turbulent time but are quintessentially a "good guy" gun. Be it seeing black and white GIs slogging through the marsh with a short Puerto Rican 60 gunner or seeing a guy standing post at the iron curtain.

    Heck, I say get one of these, a GI RIA, and a set of OG-107s.

    The A1 is becoming in the same pantheon as the 03A3 and the M1 Garand. It is only recently that the Vietnam Veterans are seen with the dignity they deserve and it is long overdue. And also a shame as far too many are not here to see it. These were the rifles of our fathers.

    An SR-15 could smoke an A1, truly. But SR-15s weren't carried in Vietnam.

    We should be grateful. Colt promised "collector" CAR-15s and A1s but I don't know if they ever actually came out (I know the price was obscene and weren't even Hartford guns).

    In time, as with all generations, the last Vietnam Veteran will draw his last breath. The youngest is already in his mid 60s. This is a way to remember and honor before they become dead men living only in pictures.
    The M16 is over 50 years old. When I was born - which wasn't that long ago - the US Rifle, Caliber 30, M1 was 49 years old. It wasn't long after that when we were celebrating the 50th Anniversary of V-E Day. The 50th Anniversary of Ia Drang was about two years and two months ago.

    The M1 was adopted roughly thirty years after the M1903 (1903-1936). The M16 was adopted roughly thirty years after the M1 (1936-1964). The bayonet blade and shape for the first issued M16 bayonet (M7 bayonet) was identical to the last issued M1 bayonet (M5/M5A1), with both using identical scabbards (M8/M8A1). The M1903, M1, M14, and M16 all used the same M1907 leather and M1 web slings. My 1943-production M1 was last rebuilt by the Springfield Armory in 1965, a year after the adoption of the M16. When my 6'5" tall father enlisted in the Marine Corps in the 1970s, they had to issue him WWII- and Korea-era HBT uniforms - the OG-107s weren't long enough for him (he went in early enough to be issued an M14 in boot camp, late enough that they had fiberglass stocks on them).

    The AR-15 (601), XM16E1, and M16/M16A1 aren't becoming of the same pantheon as Garand's rifle. They already are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade04 View Post
    What I hope for is the correct port doors for these models, but I am not holding my breath right now. None of the pics show them with the port doors closed. The 601 would have a large flat square pad like this.

    https://i.imgur.com/ot3XXpl.jpg

    The XM16E1, M16A1, and XM177E2 would have the small rectangular pad like this.

    https://i.imgur.com/v4efNjN.jpg
    They have images of the guns with ejection port doors closed if you click on the, "Discover More," buttons.

    To spare you the effort: If the pictures shown for the 601 clone are anything to go by, these retro guns do not have the correct ejection port doors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    That said, for 1200, Brownells best include a mixtape of CCR, Smokey Robinson, Hendrix, The Stones, and some Motown.
    Screw it, I'll make my own for when I buy one and take my old man shooting. May even take an old photo of Jane Fonda with us as a piss target.
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