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    +1 on running it with standard fmj/ball ammo and making sure it runs on that

    With 2 full mags of the "chosen/specialized" round, I call it a day.

    little bullet going into a big hole without much angle... lots of room for deviance

    pistols are a different matter. big bullet going into a hole not too much smaller than the overall ogive/front of the round; depending on design require more angle to feed correctly (1911) which requires closer tolerances and more specific angles for it to feel reliably

    ARs aren't as susceptible to limp wristing either

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    I dunno, I vet pretty much any "Duty" firearm this way:

    400 Rounds of mix ammo. The last pistol and AR I broke in very similar.
    50 Wolf Steel
    50 Wolf Gold
    100 Winchester White Box
    100 M193

    Plus:
    100 rounds of carry/duty ammo.

    I originally broke in a handgun in the same manner, but it was steel cased tula, winchester white box, and some NATO spec FMJs. Finished the handguns off with 100 rounds of carry ammo.

    It worked for me, so I stuck with it.

    I don't do any cleaning in between here, just dirty it to 500 rounds, in most cases. I just like to see that it can handle the heat, grit, and varying between higher and lower pressures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    - release slide using mag release,
    How does that work
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post

    Colt Carbine- Factory preservative when combined with Froglube affected function.

    Colt Shortie- Factory preservative when combined with Froglube affected function.

    Colt 1911- Slow lock time due to factory preservative combined with Froglube. Note: Same thing occurred with another Colt 1911 I owned since the 90s. There were traces of the factory preservative still on the mainspring. When I lubed it with Froglube, the preservative & Froglube combined and turned thick and gummy.
    Seems like those are user error when Frog Lube combines with other lubes rather than a gun problem. I think I’d quit using that stuff.


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    Originally Posted by 26 Inf:
    - release slide using mag release,

    Quote Originally Posted by 10MMGary View Post
    How does that work
    proprietary special modification
    Last edited by 26 Inf; 03-07-18 at 11:04.

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    I'll run a few mags of Range ammo and a mag or 2 of chosen/duty ammo and call it a day. I don't run anything for range ammo that's not 5.56, and if I can get a hold of decent 5.56 pressure defensive ammo, I'll use that. If I can't I go with 62gr Gold Dots.

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    How many rounds before you consider an AR "good to go"?

    Quote Originally Posted by redpillregret View Post
    Seems like those are user error when Frog Lube combines with other lubes rather than a gun problem. I think I’d quit using that stuff.


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    The user error is using Frog Lubz I the first place.

    Any weapon lube that makes me think...
    1. Smells so good, wonder how it tastes?
    2. What other uses besides cleaning WEAPON (not guns) could I use this for?

    Either of those questions should not be prompted by the lubricant or product you deal a firearm with. Then there was the time in the cold weather it clogged up my BCG like I had pumped Jello brand jello pudding in my upper. I have a jar I’ve had for 3 years. Waiting to find a need for a “lube” that does the opposite of lubing so I can actually use it.

    Get some Slip/EWLor Break Free/CLP. Even GAA (Grease, Automotive, Artillery) would work 1,000 times better than that Mentholatum /Ben Gay smelling crap.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertTheTexan View Post
    The user error is using Frog Lubz I the first place.

    Any weapon lube that makes me think...
    1. Smells so good, wonder how it tastes?
    2. What other uses besides cleaning WEAPON (not guns) could I use this for?

    Either of those questions should not be prompted by the lubricant or product you deal a firearm wit. Then there was the time in the cold weather it clogged up my BCG like I had pumped Jello brand jello pudding in my upper. I have a jar I’ve had for 3 years. Waiting to find a need for a “lube” that does the opposite of lubing so I can actually use it.

    Get some Slip/EWLor Break Free/CLP. Even GAA (Grease, Automotive, Artillery) would work 1,000 times better than that Mentholatum /Ben Gay smelling crap.


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    It always stuns me to hear credible people have so many bad experiences with Frog Lube. Im starting to think that humidity must play a role. Mark and I dump that shit everywhere, EVEN THE PASTE, and our guns run like a scalded dog. I use it in everything. Bolt guns, AR's of all sizes and shapes and my handguns. With just no issue at all. We have run our guns in the cold, maybe chilly- cold being in low 30's, no issue.

    Humidity might be the enemy of Frog lube???

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    I like competition and classes, so I’ve got a different approach on AR trust. With 1911s I run my carry guns in matches for a year. If there are zero issues with gun or 6 mags or ammo. Then I am GTG.
    The mags are GTG for carry and I order 6 new mags and repeat.
    With my favorite Colt 6933, its been to a few Randy Cain’s, Louis Awerbuck, Pat Rogers, and multiple Kyle Lamb. Also, zero malfunctions, but learned the Colt horse mags can’t be trusted in my 6933 with over 26 rounds.
    I shoot 2 Steel matches a month. The Glocks 19s have never failed. I’ve never cleaned the mags. 200+ rounds per match. GTG.
    My 1911’s in 9mm have always had minor issues. Great class and competition guns, but minor issues, they will never be carried.
    Bottom line is shoot the crap of any gun you want to trust. I know that is not a fixed point but believe it is way of validating and including ALL reasonable tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappabear View Post
    It always stuns me to hear credible people have so many bad experiences with Frog Lube. Im starting to think that humidity must play a role. Mark and I dump that shit everywhere, EVEN THE PASTE, and our guns run like a scalded dog. I use it in everything. Bolt guns, AR's of all sizes and shapes and my handguns. With just no issue at all. We have run our guns in the cold, maybe chilly- cold being in low 30's, no issue.

    Humidity might be the enemy of Frog lube???

    PB
    That’s possible PB. It was raining/misting and cold. I don’t remember what I was doing exactly. But I was testing something that had me firing just enough rounds to warm up the metal and then I was adjusting something and it had time to cool down. Warm up, cool down. Warm up, cool down. That’s what I thought led to it getting “gummy” on me. And that’s an accurate description. My BCG was gummy/sticky. I wasn’t running any other lube in the weapon. But I definitely remember it was pretty chilly and misting rain and that I wasn’t running the rifle hard before it cooled down.

    Also maybe I got a bad batch. I had a thick liquid and the paste. When it happened and I felt the gumminess I cleaned my BCG with some CLP and continued testing without further incident. Even in the early morning rain. Lol
    Like a lot of guys I’ve tried different lubricants. Mostly to just try it. Not from necessity but more curiosity. Slip2000/EWL, Umbrella Unicorn Tears, and Sprinco’s MG lube have held up really well including some pretty hard usage in raining and dusty conditions. Just saying I’m not hurting for a good AR lubricant/cleaner even if Frog Lubz isn’t my deal.


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