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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Save your money or don't. There may be a temporary price spike, but the market has been in a freefall for a good 18 months. It's like the stock market or Bitcoin. If you wait until the wrong time, it is what it is.

    There is nothing for 650.00 I would buy because they are usually garbage.
    So what exactly about Stag is garbage aside from the 6061 buffer tube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    Those round counts are entirely too low to base recommendations off of, especially considering the brands.

    OP, Mrgunsngear just posted a video about a Stag 15 and he had positive things to say. I have no experience with any budget gun, but my buddy has a complete Aero that has worked fine for about 500 rounds, once he worked through what I think was a small burr in the FCG. No idea how Aero compares to Stag nowadays. Every now and then I get tempted by a budget rifle because some of them really seem to work fine, but I know that I'd never be truly happy with it, given that I could afford nicer if I just saved a little longer. YMMV.

    Like you said, RE is an easy fix and there are those that try to avoid HP testing because of the stress incurred (Centurion Arms comes to mind). The feed ramps would be my biggest concern but I would guess that it wouldn't be an issue, at least depending on the mags you use. The M3 PMAGS seat the rounds higher so they feed at less of an angle, maybe negating the need for M4 ramps?
    Some people I know only put one mag through a rifle before placing it in the safe for 15 years. Round count is relative to the user.

    As OP stated this gun will be more of a beater, why spend an arm and a leg on a beater?

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    Couple of points the AR Snobs tend to overlook, CMT parent company of STAG provides lots of parts to the industry to include Colt, and Colt itself has been one step away from bankruptcy since they lost the .gov M4 contracts. How long will a company on the verge of going under maintain quality is a question I often ponder, a name and past performance will only carry you so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack7.62 View Post
    Couple of points the AR Snobs tend to overlook, CMT parent company of STAG provides lots of parts to the industry to include Colt, and Colt itself has been one step away from bankruptcy since they lost the .gov M4 contracts. How long will a company on the verge of going under maintain quality is a question I often ponder, a name and past performance will only carry you so far.
    Providing parts does not mean equality of quality in both brands.
    I have a stag with around 5k rnds through it and its been good.

    That said, it was a 16” barrel with a .075” gas port. No oring in extractor used and it never fte even 556.
    I have since cut the barrel down to 11.5” for a pistol upper and it still functions fine, though it cycles a lot softer now.

    Honestly, i would save and buy a better rifle, even a used colt or bcm, etc. i think Stag is one of the best hobby-grade rifles, and it made sense to buy something like that when they were 1/2-1/3 the price, but when you can get a better rifle for $150 more, id do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegademiC View Post
    Providing parts does not mean equality of quality in both brands.
    I have a stag with around 5k rnds through it and its been good.

    That said, it was a 16” barrel with a .075” gas port. No oring in extractor used and it never fte even 556.
    I have since cut the barrel down to 11.5” for a pistol upper and it still functions fine, though it cycles a lot softer now.

    Honestly, i would save and buy a better rifle, even a used colt or bcm, etc. i think Stag is one of the best hobby-grade rifles, and it made sense to buy something like that when they were 1/2-1/3 the price, but when you can get a better rifle for $150 more, id do that.
    Thank you for the feedback. That sounds like a pretty big Gas port. Do you happen to know around what year you bought that rifle, or what your production it was? I ask this because it looks like at some point stag changed the quality of their barrels from 4140 to 4150, so I wonder if they upgraded the gas Port size as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theM90NP View Post
    As OP stated this gun will be more of a beater, why spend an arm and a leg on a beater?
    So that it will survive being a beater. Cheap rifles really aren’t all that much cheaper these days, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mack7.62 View Post
    Couple of points the AR Snobs tend to overlook, CMT parent company of STAG provides lots of parts to the industry to include Colt, and Colt itself has been one step away from bankruptcy since they lost the .gov M4 contracts. How long will a company on the verge of going under maintain quality is a question I often ponder, a name and past performance will only carry you so far.
    It's not necessarily the quality of the parts...it's the Quality Assurance process of the finished rifle. Some companies check the specs of more of their component parts that go into their rifles and have a lower threshold for rejecting parts that don't quite measure up. That's a potentially expensive process and is the notorious stumbling block for budget price-point firearms. It's what sets the higher-quality rifles apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theM90NP View Post
    Some people I know only put one mag through a rifle before placing it in the safe for 15 years. Round count is relative to the user.

    As OP stated this gun will be more of a beater, why spend an arm and a leg on a beater?
    Just because it functions for those 30 rounds doesn’t mean its a good rifle though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56 Bonded SP View Post
    Thank you for the feedback. That sounds like a pretty big Gas port. Do you happen to know around what year you bought that rifle, or what your production it was? I ask this because it looks like at some point stag changed the quality of their barrels from 4140 to 4150, so I wonder if they upgraded the gas Port size as well.
    2009. It was my first AR . I didnt shoot it for years until i cut it down. The 5k round count was in factory configuration. Only 200rds of wolf gold and 30rds of fed fusion62gr since the chop job.

    Edit: iirc the bolts are batch mpi tested vs individually tested.
    The way i see it, you have greater chance of a defect with cheaper rifles. Ill spend an extra 1-200$ to reduce chances having ro replace parts or ship it back. I want to spend my free time on the range, not dealing with CS. If you shoot 30 rds a year, a $500 AR stoner will likely work fine for you.
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