LPVO advice

[dhnut1973]

I don’t have the ability to check them out first hand so I’m looking for advice. I have checked specs and watched vids, but I’m interested in the thoughts here. I will be putting it on my DD M4A1 16” with BCM lower which is about 7 lbs 4 oz without optic so weight is a concern. Or should it be? I’m not sure the 8 oz or so difference between the scopes I’m considering would be that noticeable. I would like duty-grade durability and the price to stay under $1500. What are your thought on these?

Nightforce NX8 1-8
Vortex Razor HD Gen II-E 1-6
Trijicon Accupower 1-8
Steiner PX4i 1-4


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[Boba Fett v2]

With either one of those you're going to feel the weight and it's going to effect the balance. Depending on what you intend to do with it, my first choice of those listed would be the Steiner. If you need more range, the NX8. The Accupower DV is lacking and the Razor Gen II is a beast of an optic. Others will have varying opinions based on experience I'm sure.

[gunnerblue]

The NX8 is 17 oz. I use other scopes of the same weight (NXS 1-4 and MK 6 1-6) on rifles similar to yours and do not feel that the balance is ruined. I’ve also used Accupowers and feel that they are overall lacking in comparison with Nightforce compacts. I’ve never used the Steiner or Razor but I’ve heard that the latter is a pig- though seemingly popular.

[Boba Fett v2]

The NX8 is 17 oz. I use other scopes of the same weight (NXS 1-4 and MK 6 1-6) on rifles similar to yours and do not feel that the balance is ruined. I’ve also used Accupowers and feel that they are overall lacking in comparison with Nightforce compacts. I’ve never used the Steiner or Razor but I’ve heard that the latter is a pig- though seemingly popular.

Didn't say it "ruined" the balance. I said it would affect the balance. To what degree really depends on you and how your rig is set up. I had a 17-ounce optic on my 16" SR15 and it definitely affected the balance when compared to a micro RDS, throwing just a little bit more weight towards the rear. Plenty of guys shooting LPVOs these days and it's really not that big a deal.

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[Furbyballer]

The new 21.5oz razor is the best all around optic in your list. If size and capability with drawbacks (Fov and eyebox) is what you want then go with the nx8.

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[gunnerblue]

Didn't say it "ruined" the balance. I said it would affect the balance. To what degree really depends on you and how your rig is set up. I had a 17-ounce optic on my 16" SR15 and it definitely affected the balance when compared to a micro RDS, throwing just a little bit more weight towards the rear. Plenty of guys shooting LPVOs these days and it's really not that big a deal.

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I wasn’t actually responding to your post, lol, but rather the OP. You’re right, balance is definitely affected-especially compared to a RDS. My point was that the handling quality with a 17 oz scope is not that noticeable (to me anyway).

I forgot that there is a new lighter weight Razor out there.

[Boba Fett v2]

I wasn’t actually responding to your post, lol, but rather the OP. You’re right, balance is definitely affected-especially compared to a RDS. My point was that the handling quality with a 17 oz scope is not that noticeable (to me anyway).

I forgot that there is a new lighter weight Razor out there.

My bad. I've looked through the Razors and they are stellar optics without a doubt. Just a bit on the chubby side for a 556 carbine IMO. Although the Gen II is comparable in size and weight to the NF 1-8x ATACR, which I feel are better suited for 762 set-ups.

[dhnut1973]

Thanks for all the replies so far and please keep them coming. I currently have a cheap Redfield Battlezone scope ( about 15 oz) and a weaver mount on the gun that brings it to 8lbs 10 oz. The weight is not terrible and I'm not sure the 10 oz difference between my scope and the heaviest I'm considering is worth worrying about.
I'm also surprised to hear some don't care for the eye box and relief of the NX8. At 17 oz it is the lightest 1-8 I'm looking at. I did notice the Razor HD II-E is lighter than earlier models at 21.5 oz and is usually recognized as the gold standard in its class. I wish I could look through and handle these scopes, it would make things easier for sure.
The range I shoot at is only 300 yards so I could also just go with the Steiner PX4I 1-4 which at 17 oz and has a daylight bright reticle for CQB drills, gets great reviews.
Thanks again for your advice and keep it coming.

[sidewaysil80]

Khales k16i

Imo the best LPVO on the market. Huge eyebox, forgiving eye relief, daylight bright, low weight, and proven durability.


But, for your needs just get the Steiner. Everything else is overkill/waste of money for a 14.5” BCM thats omly going to 300yds. Accupower 1-4 is a great optic for the price as well.

[gaijin]

Khales k16i

Imo the best LPVO on the market. Huge eyebox, forgiving eye relief, daylight bright, low weight, and proven durability.


But, for your needs just get the Steiner. Everything else is overkill/waste of money for a 14.5” BCM thats omly going to 300yds. Accupower 1-4 is a great optic for the price as well.

Of your presented choices- I sure agree with this- and for the same reason(s).