Last edited by WillBrink; 10-20-18 at 16:47.
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“Those who do not view armed self defense as a basic human right, ignore the mass graves of those who died on their knees at the hands of tyrants.”
- Will
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“Those who do not view armed self defense as a basic human right, ignore the mass graves of those who died on their knees at the hands of tyrants.”
The Cor Bon 135gr .40 loads were known for fragmenting. So were most of Cor Bon's other well-known offerings like the 115gr +P 9mm (really doing +P+ velocities). "Back in the day" that was the optimal wounding mechanism as bullet technology hadn't advanced to where it is today. All of your modern big-name loads are designed to hold together at more manageable velocities: HST, Gold Dot, PDX, Ranger, etc.
Having said that, the 115gr 9mm BPLE +P+ is still highly thought of (have a few boxes myself) and IMHO some specific loads are just expected to fragment, but it is almost always accompanied by screaming velocities. I'm a firm believer that the 357Sig, originally designed to mimic .357 Magnum terminal ballistics, should fragment. Underwood used to offer a 125gr 357Sig round loaded with the Sierra JHP. It was HOT, doing nearly 1500fps from a 4" barrel. The Sierra JHP is an old-school cup-and-core JHP and is not bonded, so it would fragment at extreme velocities like 1450+ fps. Although I don't have a 357Sig weapon anymore, I do have 2 boxes of the Underwood load stashed in case I pick another one up in the future.
My current go-to 9mm loads are 147gr HST +P. The only .40 handgun I have is loaded with 180gr HST.
11C2P '83-'87
Airborne Infantry
F**k China!
To be perfectly blunt, I don't care about ANY "street" results. FBI gel testing has been validated against performance in actual shootings, it gives us a repeatable medium to test and improve bullet performance.
Cor-Bon wows some with velocity and ft-lbs and knock down power, not FBI testing. It's probably why I can't recall seeing any tested, and why I question the people that choose it.
I'll add a nice story about street results. A dept I knew some officers on were involved in a shooting years ago. unobstructed frontal shot, a 5.56 ballistic tip 55gr varmint bullet. Results were good, being unobstructed, but I still think it's a poor ammo choice and it would have gone poorly with even a minor intermediate barrier.
I use Federal HST's in all my carry pistols. Been happy with all the others so far.
9mm's +p 124gr.
40 S&W 165gr.
45 ACP 230gr.
Still gotta get some 357 Sig. 125gr. to try.
If for some reason I can't get HST's, Gold Dot's are my next choice, YMMV.
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Some dept heads might be remembering the days back when 147 didn't expand or cycle some guns. the 124 +p adds a bit of "oomph" to ensure more reliable cycling at the expense of a bit more recoil.
HST in 124 +p, 147, & 147 +p have all proven reliable over nearly 1000 rounds through a number of different guns for me
Wouldn't hesitate to use any of them. 124 +p would be top choice for shorter barrels while I'd prefer 147 based on expanded round size.
11C2P '83-'87
Airborne Infantry
F**k China!
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