Remington vs Mossberg Box-fed Shotguns

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

I hate loading shotguns under time crunches, not a skill I want to work on. How are the new 780 and 590 that have detachable mags looking? Anyone have experience with them? How would they be classified for 3-gun comps?

[26 Inf]

Open class unless they've recently changed the rules.

I'm kind of waiting for the answers to your other questions because I'd like to get a TAC-14DM just for grins and giggles.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Open class unless they've recently changed the rules.

I'm kind of waiting for the answers to your other questions because I'd like to get a TAC-14DM just for grins and giggles.

Those TAC-14s at first glance to me what handguns are like for Brits- something is not quite right... Not really versed on shotguns so I never realized how those short barrel ones fit into the framework. Looks like an interesting- and jaring tool.

They should show a standard one of those next to the mag version. Below the standard a picture of a key and the words "Masterkey", and under the mag version a bunch of keys on a ring and the words "Multiple-Masterkey".

I overall like the Mossberg for the greater mag capacity, but crap gets heavy. I really don't want more than 10 rounds, and that 6 is really probably the sweet spot. If you can reload fast, you need the super high cap. 20 rounds at 8 shots of 000....

[Moose-Knuckle]

I overall like the Mossberg for the greater mag capacity, but crap gets heavy.

I handled them at the NRA show, unloaded of course and thought to myself "I wonder how heavy these get loaded up?".

[flenna]

Honestly, outside competition I just don't see the advantage of a box fed pump shotgun. Rapid mag change capability is superfluous in my opinion. But maybe I am just old school as I was trained to transition to handgun once my pumpgun ran empty instead of fumbling with a reload.

[26 Inf]

Honestly, outside competition I just don't see the advantage of a box fed pump shotgun. Rapid mag change capability is superfluous in my opinion. But maybe I am just old school as I was trained to transition to handgun once my pumpgun ran empty instead of fumbling with a reload.

I can see several things folks might see as advantages:

Ammo changeovers (buck to slug) could be done more quickly.

Someone could store their shotgun empty and have it loaded more quickly for home defense.

As far as transitioning after your shotgun runs empty, largely because getting the ammo (if you have any) and either tube loading one or two at a time is more time consuming. An extra magazine puts the magazine fed shotgun in the same class as an AR.

In a stand on your hind legs and deliver gunfight, it may be more efficient to transition to the sidearm than reload either a shotgun or an AR. Think back to the origins of the 'New York Reload' with revolvers.

But, if your behind cover, or on the move I'd rather stay with the long gun compared to the pistol.

[Moose-Knuckle]

I can think of a couple of scenarios were a fella might find 20 (+1) rounds of Brenneke slugs quit convenient, and they don't all involve xenomorphs.

[Todd.K]

I handled them at the NRA show, unloaded of course and thought to myself "I wonder how heavy these get loaded up?".

On the plus side, the weight stays in the receiver area and not further forward like the higher capacity mag tubes.

[GH41]

On the plus side, the weight stays in the receiver area and not further forward like the higher capacity mag tubes.

Not much of a plus. Twenty 3" OO Buck weigh 3 pounds even. For any practical purpose the long vertical magazine is a liability IMO.

[HKGuns]

While I do own a Winchester 20 gauge pump. I have one rule regarding shotguns. Benelli or Beretta only for serious shotguns.