ATF now stating they never reversed 2015 open letter

[brenrulez10]

Sorry if this is a repost, saw this on reddit and another forum this week.



They are apparently sending this out with all new pistol brace letters according to the user who posted/leaked it. I haven't seen anything on any of the big gun blogs about it, which is odd considering this is pretty big news?

In any event i'm just glad i got my F1 SBRs in last year, i knew that whole letter thing last year with the braces wasn't going to last.

[joeg26er]

Sorry if this is a repost, saw this on reddit and another forum this week.



They are apparently sending this out with all new pistol brace letters according to the user who posted/leaked it. I haven't seen anything on any of the big gun blogs about it, which is odd considering this is pretty big news?

In any event i'm just glad i got my F1 SBRs in last year, i knew that whole letter thing last year with the braces wasn't going to last.

What stabilizing brace configurations have been approved implicitly by the ATF?

[joeg26er]

What if one wears a shoulder harness / vest / garment that has a socket in the shoulder that allows the butt end of the buffer to rest on? It's never "attached" to the pistol.
This would actually aid in accuracy since you'll always get a more consistent position for cheek weld. Combine this with a telescoping Pistol Buffer Tube and voila?

[VIP3R 237]

Do we have a link to a credible source?

[brenrulez10]

Do we have a link to a credible source?

I saw this on r/firearms - https://reddit.com/r/Firearms/commen...pistol_braces/

Though reading through the comments again someone in a different sub came forward and said they got the same thing in a letter from atf - https://reddit.com/r/Firearms/commen...d9n/?context=3 and it looks like theirs has more to it too

[Dump1567]

Personally I always thought the last letter just tried to clarify their stance. My take away was that if you're using a brace as a stock, it could be re-classified as a stock. At the end of the day, it would really be up to a prosecutor and a jury to determine that.

[RHINOWSO]

More churn for the SBR / Pistol drama.

Always enjoyable to watch.

My takeaway is if you modify a brace to be more useful as a stock, you could be making an SBR.

If you use a brace as a stock occasionally, you really haven't made an SBR.

Good luck.

[nimdabew]

The damn brace is almost as much as the damn tax stamp. If you are really worried about the government being all up in your info, a NFA charge is probably the least of your worries.

Oh yeah, if you put your paperwork in when this whole fiasco with the braces was going on, you would have it back by now.

Buy what you want and don't worry about the damn ATF and their opinions changing with the tide.

[bp7178]

My problem with all of this is that the ATF is deciding law.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

What if one wears a shoulder harness / vest / garment that has a socket in the shoulder that allows the butt end of the buffer to rest on? It's never "attached" to the pistol.
This would actually aid in accuracy since you'll always get a more consistent position for cheek weld. Combine this with a telescoping Pistol Buffer Tube and voila?

Nice thought exercise. Or just a really big shoulder pad like those 1950s bras... Make the ATF determine how much of a rise off the shoulder would constitute something.

My problem with all of this is that the ATF is deciding law.

That is how a lot of legal stuff works. The law is passed and the actual regulations are written by the pertinent executive branch office.

I don't know what is worse, a lot of lobbyist, staffers and congresscritters who know nothing getting into the minutia, or leaving it to GSA people to write.