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Thread: Where are the 14.5" M4 barrels with FSBs these days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegademiC View Post
    Are we talking ‘grade’ or brand?
    Is KAC hobby grade?

    Disclaimer: kind of a stupid word debate imo, but curious on your qualifiers..
    in my limited experience is that bcm>psa. (2samples bcm, 1 sample psa).
    It is a dumb debate. I have what I have, and I shoot what I have, and those tools are what I train with to become a better fighter. I don't give a crap what is or isn't 'hobby grade' or whatever.

    I am issued garbage by my agency, and I train with that garbage. Frankly, if being issued sets the bar for what is and isn't hobby grade, then I'd not be offended by the nomenclature and would just have better, non-issued kit.

    But, the 14.5" Colt SOCOM barrel is a stand out, and again, I'd just stop my search there. It also happens to fill up arms rooms over seas, and has a pedigree of being used to kill a lot of bad guys, which is something that a BCM/PSA/whatever brand doesn't have going for it.
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    I've owned a Colt 14.5 Carbine FSB upper AND currently own the 14.5 BCM SOCOM. I could only differentiate the two by weight as the SOCOM is heavier. There is no functional or quality variance between the two. This is based on shooting accuracy, gassing, and shooting suppressed. I've had the SOCOM for years now. So I'm puzzled at the notion that BCM falls short in any way shape or form.

    I previously owned a Bushmaster 14.5 carbine. Not that thing, although fun to shoot, did fall short in quality. It was over gassed, and the rear sight assembly was out of spec and had to be replaced. It was a beater gun that I shot until the throat was really eroded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonesshowmonkey View Post
    Colt, along with Daniel Defense barrels, are issued to face shooters; everything else is hobby grade. Thems the breaks.
    How about LMT and FN?
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    You know the answer. Stop trying to instigate an argument.

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    What makes a BCM hobbyist grade?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegademiC View Post
    Are we talking ‘grade’ or brand?
    Is KAC hobby grade?

    Disclaimer: kind of a stupid word debate imo, but curious on your qualifiers..
    in my limited experience is that bcm>psa. (2samples bcm, 1 sample psa).
    KAC is quite literally, the finest, most well built and engineered factory rifle money can buy. Like it or not, KAC and Colt are the standards by which all others are judged.


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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Have I missed something? BCM meets the TDP. Is the TDP no longer good enough?
    I don’t think over torqued barrel nuts and non pinned low profile gas blocks are part of the TDP.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Goodtimes View Post
    I don’t think over torqued barrel nuts and non pinned low profile gas blocks are part of the TDP.
    Non-pinned low profile gas blocks are on Mk12s, Mk18s, M4A1 SOPMOD Block IIs, and the new USASOC URG-I.

    And I'm not alone in having dealt with over-torqued barrel nuts on Colt rifles (fresh from the factory).

    ETA: I believe (actually, on review of the video below, know) KAC's rifles, "quite literally, the finest, most well built and engineered factory rifle money can buy," use non-pinned low profile gas blocks, too. (Quoted below.) They have, in fact, pretty much made it impossible to install a pinned gas block.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Goodtimes View Post
    KAC is quite literally, the finest, most well built and engineered factory rifle money can buy. Like it or not, KAC and Colt are the standards by which all others are judged.
    KAC URX4 install video for reference:
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonesshowmonkey View Post
    In a world where Colt SOCOM barrels regularly shoot sub-moa, why is anyone even asking after what 14.5 FSB barrel to get? Just find a Colt SOCOM and drive on. And if the BCM barrel is outshot by the corresponding Colt barrel, that may be a basis for hobbygrade.

    Correction. Colt, along with Daniel Defense barrels, are issued to face shooters; everything else is hobby grade. Thems the breaks.
    Well if stacking bodies is your hobby then yes, KAC Is hobby grade. To help you understand, I have compiled a list of elite people and agencies/units who use KAC.

    List Of Elite People And Units In Order of Importance (top to bottom) Who Use KAC:

    The USSS
    Jason Everman
    Jack Luba
    Kevin Boland (circa 2007 ish)
    Eugene Stoner
    Master Chief
    God
    Jesus


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fjallhrafn View Post
    What makes a BCM hobbyist grade?
    It’s not, that is the most idiotic thing I heard this week claiming BCM is somehow hobby grade. Whoever said that is ether a troll or a complete moron.

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