Pocket Pistol Kahr pm9 questions

[signal4l]

I remember looking at Kahr pistols in the early 2000s. I wish I bought one then. Kahr sent me a fed ex label. The gun went back there 2 days ago. When I get it back I will give it a good flogging.

I read an article about these pistols when they first came to the market. If I remember correctly Kahr's use of the off set feed ramp may have infringed on a patent held by Seecamp. The owner of Kahr did the ethical thing and worked out a fair deal without pissing away time and money with attorneys, lawsuits. Sad to see how things have changed.

I appreciate Ned chiming in on this thread. He has probably forgotten more about guns than most of use will ever know

[Ned Christiansen]

Sounds like they are taking care of you sofar..... I hope it goes all the way to "fixed the gun".

Many places, the warranty service is carried out by a person who is not a bad person nor a stupid one, but one who has no knowledge or training on how guns work. What they have is a check box. Customer says gun won't lock back, change slide stop. Customer says gun misfires, change striker / striker spring. Customers says magazine won't seat, change mag catch---- etc. Fire five time and ship it. I hope they do better for you!

[Helix12]

Sweet baby Jebus!

John Moses Browning (peace be unto him) was the greatest firearms designer that has ever trod the Earth. To be unfamiliar with his initials is a terrible thing.

Now go recite the Four Rules of Firearms Safety 10 times, and sin no more.

Hello, BOY.

I'm in my late 60s and have been a shooter my whole life. My first center fire gun was a Belgium Browning in 20 gauge. I have owned I don't know how many Browning guns in my life and I damn well know who John Moses Browning. But I did not know people disrespected him by calling by the silly JMB. Understand BOY?

And I damn sure don't need any ass to advise me to read about Browning as I have been reading about his life and his guns since I was a teenager in the 60s. I don't need you advice about safety rules either as I was teaching organized gun safety to youths when I was in my 20's along with being an NRA Life Member since I was 27 years old.

So, BOY you can now go wash you ignorant mouth out with soap for using the name of Jesus as a slur. What an ass!

[titsonritz]

Hello, BOY.

I'm in my late 60s and have been a shooter my whole life. My first center fire gun was a Belgium Browning in 20 gauge. I have owned I don't know how many Browning guns in my life and I damn well know who John Moses Browning. But I did not know people disrespected him by calling by the silly JMB. Understand BOY?

And I damn sure don't need any ass to advise me to read about Browning as I have been reading about his life and his guns since I was a teenager in the 60s. I don't need you advice about safety rules either as I was teaching organized gun safety to youths when I was in my 20's along with being an NRA Life Member since I was 27 years old.

So, BOY you can now go wash you ignorant mouth out with soap for using the name of Jesus as a slur. What an ass!

How/where did you get anyone calling Browning "silly JMB"?

BTW, you were the one who asked who or what is JMB, so maybe consider lightening up just a tad.

[wanderson]

I had a pm45 for a few years, always liked how it felt and how it shot but even after the 500 round break in mine would occasionally feed a round too high and catch on the top edge of the chamber, jamming the bullet into the case.

I tried multiple mags, different ammo, tweaked this, fixed & polished that, just wasn’t reliable enough so I let it go.

Someone once posted a Kahr is a great pistol hampered with crappy mags. I think that was true of mine. And it’s the only pistol that I’ve heard multiple people complain of rounds popping out when pocket carrying a spare mag.

[buckshot1220]

I owned a PM9 about a decade back for 2-3 years. Around that time single stack 9s were hard to find, I think it was really just Kahr and the PPS. I ran somewhere around 3k rounds through it with no major failures other than an occasional failure to return to battery which just required a nudge on the slide. This was infrequent enough that I felt comfortable carrying it. Eventually it did succumb to the barrel peening issues and I sold it once fixed.

Fast forward to today and there are more guns in the marketplace that make a lot more sense than the Kahr. My go-to is now a Glock 43 and I would not trade it for a PM9 even if the PM9 is a bit smaller in some dimensions.

I'd take a hard look in no particular order at the 43, Shield, PPS, LC9 and P365. All of those should outperform the Kahr in many ways over their useful life.

[bp7178]

I owned a PM9 about a decade back for 2-3 years. Around that time single stack 9s were hard to find, I think it was really just Kahr and the PPS. I ran somewhere around 3k rounds through it with no major failures other than an occasional failure to return to battery which just required a nudge on the slide. This was infrequent enough that I felt comfortable carrying it.

I owned a PM9 in a similar time frame. I found the only time I would have fail to return to battery malfunctions, was with the 7 rnd extended mag, which had a ridiculously longer spring than the flush 6 rnd magazines. If the 7 rnd mag were to malfunction, it would be on loading the first or second round from the mag and would run fine after that. I always carried it with the flush magazine, so it didn't effect me unless I was at the range.

[SeriousStudent]

Hello, BOY.

I'm in my late 60s and have been a shooter my whole life. My first center fire gun was a Belgium Browning in 20 gauge. I have owned I don't know how many Browning guns in my life and I damn well know who John Moses Browning. But I did not know people disrespected him by calling by the silly JMB. Understand BOY?

And I damn sure don't need any ass to advise me to read about Browning as I have been reading about his life and his guns since I was a teenager in the 60s. I don't need you advice about safety rules either as I was teaching organized gun safety to youths when I was in my 20's along with being an NRA Life Member since I was 27 years old.

So, BOY you can now go wash you ignorant mouth out with soap for using the name of Jesus as a slur. What an ass!

Goodbye. Feel free to return when you understand humor.

By the way, don't assume you are older or more experienced than me.

[signal4l]

Just got a reply from Kahr...there is currently a 7-8 week turnaround on gun repairs. Over the last two and a half decades I've sent guns back to Glock, Sig, Smith & Wesson and Ruger. None of them took nearly that long to fix something that shouldn't have been broken in the first place. Not a good sign when a manufacturer is backlogged on repairs.

[Bret]

You've sent guns back to the most professional companies in the business. Most are not so prompt. 7-8 weeks is pretty typical. I'm not saying that's acceptable, but it's typical. Also typical is estimating the turn around time by a very significant amount and failing to actually repair the pistol. Send video if you can. I can't tell you how many times I had guns returned with the claim of not being able to duplicate the problem. Video has eliminated that problem.