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    Carbon on the side of my brass?

    Hey guys, I am having an issue with my reloads. I am getting a ton of carbon fouling on the side of my brass wall, almost all the way to the case rim. It usually starts to devolope after a mag or two.
    Never happens with factory ammo.

    I've done everything I feel like, double checked sizing, length, and have got my loads so hot I'm scared to go hotter.

    I've been using wolf gold brass, and various different components.

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    I've seen this in low charge pistol brass. In that example it's the mild charge not swelling the brass walls to the chamber.

    For rifle, this is usually found when adding a suppressor. Are you chronoing the load? What's the powder?
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    Normally carbon on the outside of the case means low pressure and the neck of the case not sealing in the chamber.

    What is your powder and loading info and can you post photos of the cases.

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    I get it on hotter loads too.

    For example

    25gr ramshot tac with a 69gr hpbt still gets powder on the side of the case.

    25 gr of h335 with a 60gr ballistic tip, still gets carbon on the side of the case wall.

    Im wondering if it's the wolf gold brass?

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    I've shot a lot of Wolf Gold .223, never had a soot prob. Your other loads look stout enough, so I don't think it's that.

    If this is the only brass you've ever had this prob with...it's the brass, but why I don't know. Did you shoot the Wolf as a factory round and then reload it? Did it soot when it was a factory round?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    I've shot a lot of Wolf Gold .223, never had a soot prob. Your other loads look stout enough, so I don't think it's that.

    If this is the only brass you've ever had this prob with...it's the brass, but why I don't know. Did you shoot the Wolf as a factory round and then reload it? Did it soot when it was a factory round?
    The factory rounds do not do that. I'm wondering if the brass is getting too hard or something. It doesn't seem to last very long either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56 Bonded SP View Post
    The factory rounds do not do that. I'm wondering if the brass is getting too hard or something. It doesn't seem to last very long either.
    MMMMMMM. Work hardening does happen, but one firing is faster than I've ever seen. Usually what I've seen is the work hardening first causes case necks to crack. Even then I haven't seen an over abundance of soot.

    This the only brass doing this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56 Bonded SP View Post
    It doesn't seem to last very long either.
    In what way? Primer pockets get loose?
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    This only happens with wolf brass using a correctly adjusted resizing die? This same resizing die make appropriate dimension resized brass with a different head stamp?

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    Are you using a headspace measuring tool like the Hornady to see how far you’re knocking the shoulders back from fired brass out of the gun? That’s the only way to see how much your sizing. Case gauges suck. I used one that was so out of whack that to make a .308 case fit perfect or as much as you can feel, it was bumping the shoulders back over .008 from fired brass. When I would bump the shoulders back .003 from fired brass, if I put that in that gauge it wouldn’t come close to fitting in there. I threw that gauge away along with a Dillon that was so sloppy you could put fired brass in there and shake it. I set the shoulders back .003 for my semi autos, just in case that comes up.

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