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    I'll point out that I still feel a lot of the ammunition prices we see today are artificial. Going back 15 years ago, or even less, Q3131A was $160 per thousand, and often that was the price delivered. Wolf 7.62x39 ammo was $79 per case. These aren't the musings of an old man shaking his fist at the sun, though I can see where it can be viewed that way, the issue becomes a matter of WHY prices have doubled. Material prices don't make the difference, neither do most other guesses given.

    I know some people will claim we have been at war since 01, and that has caused ammo prices to go north, but that is an obscene answer. It isn't like many companies have ammo contracts for the GOV, never mind have ammo contracts for big Army (or the rest of the small time ammo blasters).

    Back to the topic of what is decent ammo for blasting, I can comment that I know of a few upper end companies that use Wolf Gold for all their ammo needs as they have found the price and quality to meet their needs.
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    I've shot 20k+ rounds of steel ammo and it never gave me a problem aside from a ligt primer strike or two. Made hits just fine on steel targets at 100-200 yards.
    The money saved with steel ammo could easily buy a whole new upper at 5,000 rounds. Steel ammo is going for 170-200$ per thousand rounds right now. That's 100-130$ savings per case.

    You said pennies count. Don't believe all the internet ranting about steel ammo. The jackets on the bullets are a guilding metal that is as soft as copper, the same stuff used during the world wars. It's actually the cheaper powder used that can lead to throat erosion, but your looking at 7,000+ rounds before your barrel is going to be trashed.. Or 700$ in savings, which is plenty to buy a quality new upper.

    That lucky Gunner test was cool and all, but rapid firing 5,000 rounds mag dump after mag dump in a single day isn't how most people use their ARs, and if it was ammo cost wouldn't be a concern at all.

    None of my guns have a problem cyclig steel. When I first buy a new gun, I shoot a 100 rounds of steel case ammo through it to make sure it cycles.
    All my ARs shoot it just fine.

    Once I started making more money I started mostly shooting brass because the price wasn't a concern, I also reload high quality ammo for low cost.

    You should also be saving your spent brass, one day you'll be glad you did if you aren't already.

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    I will also echo that wolf gold is great brass cased ammo. It's very accurate stuff in most of my guns, giving me about 2moa. I also reload the brass.

    I've shot about 10k of the stuff with no complaints. It shoots 3000+ fps out of a 16" barrel iirc.

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    75% steel
    25% brass, Wolf gold and IMI

    I have found WPA steel case to function 100% in my three rifles and is typically 2-4 moa which is fine since I rarely shoot beyond 250. IMO its a bargain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JediGuy View Post
    What do you use?

    So far, I’ve used various, but primarily Federal 55gr .223 FMJ. Would love to find some good alternatives. The pennies matter, though I’m not interested in anything that would cause damage to the gun or fail to cycle properly. If $0.28-0.30 per round is the best to expect, no worries.

    I’d also love to hear recommendations for 77gr “practice” ammo. I’ve got good Black Hills stuff for when I want to get good precision practice or keep in mags for HD, but would love to find alternatives that would perform similarly for a lower price.

    I have tried a lot of different ammo for practice, but have basically settled on the following three brands: CBC 62, and 55 grain FMJ, MEN 55 FMJ, and Federal 55 grain FMJ.

    I fought the idea of paying for 'premium' ammo and finally decided to reload my own.

    I mostly reload 55 grain FMJ for plinking and 69/ 77 grain for target practice.

    Something you may want to consider looking into to save money or more realistically shooting more ammunition for the same amount.
    Last edited by SkiDevil; 06-23-18 at 17:16.

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    For cheap accurate ammo, im trying hornady’s steel cased match 77gr ammo soon. Might want to check it out.

    If im not trying to shoot 1-2 moa targets or test accuracy, I use wolf gold. Reliable, reloadable, etc.
    Last edited by MegademiC; 06-23-18 at 18:04.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegademiC View Post
    For cheap accurate ammo, im trying hornady’s steel cased match 77gr ammo soon. Might want to check it out.

    If im not trying to shoot 1-2 moa targets or test accuracy, I use wolf gold. Reliable, reloadable, etc.
    How’s it performing for you? Tried it against the Magtech and IMI 77 grainers?


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    MEN 56gr. 5.56 works great for most things I do. Magtech 62gr 5.56 works great for me as well.

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