Protesters at ICE headquarters in Portland - Live feed of DHS

[RazorBurn]

I'm old enough to remember the Chicago Democratic Convention.
I'm not saying that hickory and tear gas are the only solution, but it's been a while since we've tried that.
If you off handedly make a vague threat against my Children while acting like an Anarchist, well you've crossed a line.
While on one hand they feign concern for someone who crossed in to the United States illegally, they want the freedom to threaten the life of the Children of first responders.
No, hell no, it's time to bust the teeth out of the mouth that threat came out of.

OH HELL and YEAH!!!

[flenna]

I'm old enough to remember the Chicago Democratic Convention.
I'm not saying that hickory and tear gas are the only solution, but it's been a while since we've tried that.
If you off handedly make a vague threat against my Children while acting like an Anarchist, well you've crossed a line.
While on one hand they feign concern for someone who crossed in to the United States illegally, they want the freedom to threaten the life of the Children of first responders.
No, hell no, it's time to bust the teeth out of the mouth that threat came out of.

If they actually thought there was a solid chance of the poleece giving them a solid ass whipping a lot of them would probably stay home.

[SteyrAUG]

This is what you get when the powers that be are unwilling to enforce the laws.

If they STOPPED enforcing the law against post sample machine guns I'd have one of everything. By the same token if you are at NO RISK on consequences for acts of vandalism, intimidation, assault and threatening the lives of people's kids you should expect a LOT of that stuff because some people don't know any better and others simply don't care.

This is why Portland is one of those places where it sucks to live unless you are a scumbag and then it's scumbag paradise.

[Moose-Knuckle]

[austinN4]

I'm old enough to remember the Chicago Democratic Convention.

I remember it well and was wearing Army green at the time. The general political atmosphere today is starting to feel the same to me.

[HCM]

Seriously, who thought putting ICE in Portland was a good idea.

Portland, and Oregon are both part of and subject to the laws of the United States, it’s not a local popularity contest.

Both INS and The Customs Service were operating in Portland before ICE was created in 2003.

Normally, they try to have local or state LEOs clear protestors blocking operations in conjunction with the Federal Protrctive Service. There not are many FPS Officers in Portland (or anywhere else) so if the local authorities such as the Mayor of Portland or the Governor of Oregon refuse to e force state law, ICE, CBP, USBP, USMS etc will be brought in as was the case here.

There need to be consequences for the Mayor and the Governor. I doubt either will go to jail but cut all federal funding / grants etc for 6 months would send a message. The Governor Of Texas did this with the Travis County (Austin) Tx Sheriff and it worked well.

[HCM]

Just heard one of the protesters ask the LEOs if they have kids, then mention when they go to school sometimes "things" happen.

This is a federal crime under 18 USC 115. Is the threat specific enough for a U.S. Attorney to prosecute? Maybe, maybe not, but as my old FTO used say, “you may beat the rap, but you won’t beat the ride.” People are less likely to carry out threats when they aren’t anonymous anymore.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/115