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    It’s inaccessible to them. I could not as effectively and accessibly secure an AR in my circumstance.

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    Fair enough. I figure once mine are to the curious age I will be getting a small safe for my CCW at the bedside. I assume something like that is what you’re using?


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    Actually, rifles are far easier to shoot than pistols. However, I think a pistol is a better home defense firearm. It is far easier for an untrained person to move through their house with a pistol than a rifle. Training can fix that, but not everyone has the training. Overall, however, I believe a 12ga shotgun loaded with birdshot is the overall best weapon for home defense. Just my opinion. If you already own a AR 15 then you don't have to worry about home defense. It does the job very good. And keeping it under the bed in a case is my preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marufamin View Post
    ...shotgun loaded with birdshot is the overall best weapon for home defense...
    The only firearm worse for self defense than a shotgun loaded with birdshot is a pistol loaded with birdshot. This isn't an opinion, it's an established fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marufamin View Post
    Overall, however, I believe a 12ga shotgun loaded with birdshot is the overall best weapon for home defense. Just my opinion.
    I guess we are in a good spot that you called it an opinion and a belief rather than a fact.

    Bridshot is actually terrible as a defensive round. There are people who will stand by it's usefulness in prevention of over penetration through drywall, but under penetration when pellets are on target is as much of a concern. Dick Cheney shot his lawyer in the face and the guy has minimal scarring...
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    G23 W/SF X300 loaded with Federal HST 180gr next to my bed. Stored in a quick access lock box w/ Simplex Lock. (Unlocked at bedtime.) Noveske CQB pistol KX5, 20 round mag loaded with M193, empty chamber, bolt forward, hammer down, selector set to fire. Stored in a quick access cabinet. (Also unlocked at bedtime.) If I grab the AR, the G23 goes to my wife as the last line of defense. I keep everything locked up during the day but I'm packing even at home.
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    Marufanin:
    " If you already own a AR 15 then you don't have to worry about home defense. It does the job very good. And keeping it under the bed in a case is my preference."

    So, do you go out and buy a second gun if you already have an AR? If I am going to shoot and intruder, I would much rather shoot him with my AR. Personally, there is no way I am going to keep a round in the chamber of my AR. There is just too much room for error in my case. I would put five rounds in a revolver but a revolver takes more deliberate effort to actually fire. So the issue is do you spend another $500.00 for your handgun pick or do you equip and prepare your AR for home defense according to your individual comfort level and conceal it adequately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marufamin View Post
    Actually, rifles are far easier to shoot than pistols. However, I think a pistol is a better home defense firearm. It is far easier for an untrained person to move through their house with a pistol than a rifle. Training can fix that, but not everyone has the training. Overall, however, I believe a 12ga shotgun loaded with birdshot is the overall best weapon for home defense. Just my opinion. If you already own a AR 15 then you don't have to worry about home defense. It does the job very good. And keeping it under the bed in a case is my preference.
    Welcome to the forum. I was curious about your background so I looked at your other posts. I'd guess that you are fairly young and feeding your interest in firearms by visiting forums. This one i particular is generally a good place to learn. There are very knowledgeable people on hare and a also some very opinionated folks who may not have the facts or experience to back their opinions. It is up to you to sort the wheat from the chaff.

    I generally agree with your first sentence:

    Actually, rifles are far easier to shoot than pistols. However, I think (my edit - OFTEN) a pistol is a better home defense firearm. It is far easier for an untrained person to move through their house with a pistol than a rifle.

    Many folks, though feel differently, this is a subject for which there are no written in stone answers.

    This though, is a misconception:

    Overall, however, I believe a 12ga shotgun loaded with birdshot is the overall best weapon for home defense.

    The rules of physics tell us that if we are throwing projectiles of the same shape and density at the same velocity, the lighter projectile will penetrate least, and the heavier projectile while travel further and penetrate more.

    So yes it it true that 'birdshot' loads will have less penetration than 'buckshot' loads or rifle and pistol loads. The issue is that by the same token, penetration on a human is lessened to the point that heavy clothing may be birdshot armor. Yes, folks are killed by birdshot in hunting accidents. Those are generally point blank shots due to unsafe gunhandling or involve heavier shot loads.

    At across the room ranges, someone may be die after being shot with birdshot, but will they be immediately incapacitated? There is very little chance of birdshot reaching the central nervous system and causing immediate incapacitation in other than point blank ranges.

    So yeah, if you can shove the muzzle nearly into the guy's face or chest, birdshot would be effective, but otherwise not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redpillregret View Post
    Fair enough. I figure once mine are to the curious age I will be getting a small safe for my CCW at the bedside. I assume something like that is what you’re using?


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    Sort of. I built out a drawer in new bedroom furniture we bought. Hard to find, easy to access for both me and my wife when I’m traveling, perfect until kids get a little older.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightchief View Post
    What's the negative or downside to keeping the AR in condition one? Generally speaking and in your specific situation if you're willing to say. Also, not exclusively a question of Mr. Goodtimes.

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