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Thread: Secret Service Fail- How to lose a POTUS

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Let's try and remember that last time a guy was able to actually run INTO the white house with a knife. You have to find that middle ground between going to Defcon 1 every time somebody lights a cigarette in the vicinity and defending complete inaction because who expected somebody with a "Death to the WTO" shirt to actually be a problem.

    Sometimes you have to just assess on the fly and be adaptable. Sometimes you have complete control over your surroundings and sometimes you have almost no control over your surroundings.

    We should try and remember that a KNOWN member of the Manson family was able to get close enough to President Ford with a gun to try and assassinate him and it wasn't a member of the USSS or any protective detail that saved him that day. She was actually able to fire a shot and it was a member of the crowd who pushed the gun away.

    Also if somebody really wanted to get Trump, or any President, I don't think they'd use such a dramatic entrance. Car bomb parked along intended route would be far more effective.
    I agree with everything you said here.

    Listen, I enjoy reading your posts and I think you have solid insight on a great many subjects. I just think in this instance, someone on the President's detail (whether USSS or Scottish LE) dropped the ball and made the wrong call. They were lucky this time. Next time they might not be so lucky.

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    Neighbor said in the case of the paraglider, "they aren't authorize to take the shot, must be host country".

    Doesn't make sense, but those are the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by platoonDaddy View Post
    Neighbor said in the case of the paraglider, "they aren't authorize to take the shot, must be host country".

    Doesn't make sense, but those are the rules.
    I was pretty sure that was the case.
    Do you really want want the Saudi's bringing AAA in to the US to cover the Prince when/if he visits?
    The British own this one, it's to a great degree their responsibility to provide a clear and secure environment for these visits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonshot View Post
    I agree with everything you said here.

    Listen, I enjoy reading your posts and I think you have solid insight on a great many subjects. I just think in this instance, someone on the President's detail (whether USSS or Scottish LE) dropped the ball and made the wrong call. They were lucky this time. Next time they might not be so lucky.
    I agree. With basic drone technology available everywhere they should have had a better handle on airspace. But they didn't and it's not the worst "drop the ball" incident I've seen.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron3 View Post
    He's 72. He can't and should not sprint.

    What if he had fallen and got hurt?

    The message sent to the world was, "the US President is not unreachable or invincible."

    I doubt that agitator was in a pre-screened area when he took the air. What if he'd had a gun, grenade, or other weapon? (Poison, biological, etc)

    Should give Scotland Yard a nasty phone call and leave country immediately.
    WHy would you call Scotland Yard? That would be like calling NYPD for something happening in Florida. Scotland Yard is the nick name of the Metropolitan Police that polices most of London. Doesn't have a whole lot to do with this event in Scotland.
    Damien

    If a large number of people are willing to kill you for saying something, then it probably really needs to be said. .

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