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Thread: How Much Tree Is Really Cover?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arik View Post
    MAC did a test on that a few years ago. I believe he used 3 different calibers. 308, 5.45x39 and I don't remember the 3rd. Surprisingly 5.45 made it through a few trees that stopped 308.

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    Well, a two foot diameter tree is not enough. Three feet at least seems the minimum. That is a good sized tree.

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    I feel like I remember reading in our FM that trees were bad cover due to splinters.
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    A 5.56 55gr FMJ will go through an 8x8 pressure treated post easily; the entrance and exit holes were nearly identical.

    30-06 hunting rounds will go through 20"+ of a walnut tree.

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    Trees are concealment, not cover. Maybe for ricochets but that’s it for planning purposes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    I feel like I remember reading in our FM that trees were bad cover due to splinters.
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    He was calling the circumference the diameter. The first tree was actually about 13" in diameter, according to the circumference, and it stopped everything but the 5.45mm. The second tree was less than 10" in diameter, and also stopped the .308 until he fired a volley at the same spot. I'm inclined to think, based on the video, that any tree over 12" will provide an effective level of cover from most rounds, until multiple rounds have hit the same spot repeatedly.

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    We were trained that a minimum of 18" to stop AK rounds. That wouldn't stand up to sustain fire but would work until you could find something better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arik View Post
    MAC did a test on that a few years ago. I believe he used 3 different calibers. 308, 5.45x39 and I don't remember the 3rd. Surprisingly 5.45 made it through a few trees that stopped 308.

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    Penetration of wood depends on range.

    At 200 yards a 150 grain .30 cal bullet at 2700 fps will penetrate 32.5 inches of pine. At 50 feet it will only penetrate 11.25 inches....

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    It depends on a lot of things, yes!

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