Eugenics and Unwanted Sterilization in the United States

[RetroRevolver77]

This shameful thinking is the source of much of the Nazi theories that are unacceptable. Be careful here.

If it were just the actual disabled then fine but there's now over 109 million people collecting some form of government social benefits in this country.

We are currently $21T in debt with $114T in unfunded liabilities- we're broke.

How about a real solution since clearly generational welfare support isn't working.

[Hmac]

Norplant is not permanent.

Norplant also comes with some significant potential side effects. Today's sterilization techniques don't, although they are permanent.

For the last 30-40 years, Medicaid patients who seek sterilization have a mandatory 30-day waiting period from the time they sign the consent form before they can get the procedure.

[ramairthree]

The concept is distasteful,
But I can’t argue against how much better a society would be if it had tryouts and cuts.

[GH41]

Make it simple, no welfare without sterilization.

Add.. after 2 children no more earn income tax credit and no welfare if you cannot pass a drug test.

[markm]

Add.. after 2 children no more earn income tax credit and no welfare if you cannot pass a drug test.

Yep. It pays to be a worthless breeder in this country.

[MegademiC]

I dont know how true this is, but I hearsome country gives you x $ if you have a kid and need financial support.
If you have a second kid, the funding is cut in half or something to that effect. Semms like a step in the right direction from where we are.

[Arik]

You're right, we should just end all welfare, every last tax supported social program. If you fall down into hard times then let the good community or your bible based church help you back on your feet. If no one helps you, then it's likely for good reason.

Agreed. Along with donations to charities, churches, and everyone else. Your problem, you deal with it! Why do I have to give you my money.

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[OH58D]

As I recall, wasn't Eugenics one of the platforms of the Progressive Movement in the early 20th century, courtesy of Margaret Sanger? We'll probably see this again once the Progressives totally take control.

[SteyrAUG]

This shameful thinking is the source of much of the Nazi theories that are unacceptable. Be careful here.

Yep, this is right up there with sicking our military on WWI combat veterans and their family during the bonus march. We did some deplorable shit during the 30s in our flirtations with socialism.

It is one thing to mandate something like Norplant if you are receiving government aid, it would benefit planned parenthood as a program so nobody should bitch. And it's temporary.

Some young people who have jobs and are working still need a little help to get on their feet. I don't mind that kind of temporary assistance if it means they become productive and then contribute to helping the next guy with their taxes.

The problem is we reward people for working LESS and having MORE children. Even those who aren't out to deliberately game the system can still see what is in their best interest.

Years ago I knew a single mother who worked 40+ hours who turned down a offer of a management position because the increase in salary would not offset to loss of benefits she was currently receiving. That's insane.

[SteyrAUG]

As I recall, wasn't Eugenics one of the platforms of the Progressive Movement in the early 20th century, courtesy of Margaret Sanger? We'll probably see this again once the Progressives totally take control.

Actually it was the UK that began modern "scientific" eugenics (even though it was hardly scientific) in the early 20th century but it didn't take us too long to jump right on board with the usual suspects.