Eugenics and Unwanted Sterilization in the United States

[Arik]

Google up something:
Senator Robert Byrd, the add KKK to his name.
After you've read that compare that to what Snopes has to say about him.
The Democratic Party with the help of people like Snopes have been trying to clean up that mess for over sixty years.

Btw Byrd took Hillary Clinton under his wing early in her political career. She had wonderful things to say about him.

Snopes says he WAS a member but left in the 40s so not exactly incorrect. Kinda like the Ikea guy.

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[Averageman]

Well if you believe Snopes you have to ask yourself if Byrd became so "racially enlightened" in the 1940's, why did he continue to fight integrated schools and civil rights for decades after the 1940's?

[Alex V]

There is a chapter regarding American and Nazi Eugenics researchers and promoters sharing love for each other in The Big Lie. Interesting read.

[flenna]

Well if you believe Snopes you have to ask yourself if Byrd became so "racially enlightened" in the 1940's, why did he continue to fight integrated schools and civil rights for decades after the 1940's?

The great lie continues today. The Republicans are the racist homophobic fascists. But the Democrats are the unselfish minority loving, freedom loving, women's rights champions party of the common people. Just take a stroll on any college campus or down any city street and ask those you encounter. The Ministry of Truth has been a smashing success.

[SteyrAUG]

Snopes says he WAS a member but left in the 40s so not exactly incorrect. Kinda like the Ikea guy.

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He wasn't exactly "just a member" either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd#Ku_Klux_Klan

According to Byrd, a Klan official told him, "You have a talent for leadership, Bob ... The country needs young men like you in the leadership of the nation." Byrd later recalled, "Suddenly lights flashed in my mind! Someone important had recognized my abilities! I was only 23 or 24 years old, and the thought of a political career had never really hit me. But strike me that night, it did."[17] Byrd became a recruiter and leader of his chapter.[11] When it came time to elect the top officer (Exalted Cyclops) in the local Klan unit, Byrd won unanimously.[11]

In December 1944, Byrd wrote to segregationist Mississippi Senator Theodore G. Bilbo:

I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.
— Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944[11][18]

He only really left because of political aspirations so he put the klan in the closet.

[SteyrAUG]

One issue with this is that science can't even decide if some of these things are just genetics, or epigenetics.

Many now theorize that you could have some bad genes, but unless you expose them to certain environmental exposures, you may never end up with the disease associated with those genes.



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Yep and I alluded to that a bit. With the very recent completion of the human genome project we have just taken our first baby steps in this area. We have a lot to learn before we arrive at "practical applications."

Additionally understanding it completely and being able to apply it in any meaningful way are also very far apart.

[sundance435]

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the political parties reversed (from what they are today) around the time of the civil war? Meaning that Democrats were what we today consider Republicans and vise versa

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No, the "switch" was propelled by the Civil Rights movement. It became noticeable in the late 40's, but really took off in '68. I still consider myself a "classic" Republican - I have no use for the social conservativism that has taken over the base of the party. Like many posting in this thread, they're nostalgic for a period that was never really as good as they imagine it was. Nostalgia is powerful like that, it helps erase the memories of the less pleasant stuff.

That being said, there are myriad ways to reform "welfare" programs that don't have a basis in eugenics. Yes, it's way too easy to have a child, but can you imagine the slippery slope if government started getting involved in those decisions?

[TomMcC]

It seems the classical Republican, Abraham Lincoln, was pretty invested in the social conservativism of abolishing chattel slavery.

[Moose-Knuckle]

This shameful thinking is the source of much of the Nazi theories that are unacceptable. Be careful here.

Where do you think the Nazis got their eugenics program from?



ETA:

As I recall, wasn't Eugenics one of the platforms of the Progressive Movement in the early 20th century, courtesy of Margaret Sanger? We'll probably see this again once the Progressives totally take control.

[Moose-Knuckle]

And the American Progressive movement had its infancy at the same time as the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. Nothing seems to occur in a vacuum does it?

Margaret Sanger promoting Planned Parenthood in predominant Black neighborhoods while Hitler is working on plans for the "Final Solution". Democrats and their allies sure have a rotten history in this Country, from being the slavery party, to eugenics targeting Blacks, to opposition to the voting rights act, and finally the 20th version of slavery in the Great Society movement. Someone needs to produce a TV commercial pointing all of this out.

D'Souza did one better than that, he made an entire documentary on the subject matter . . .