Utah (& Florida) Non-Resident Concealed Permits

[SHIVAN]

I live in Virginia, and would like to get both a Utah and Florida concealed carry permit. Does anyone know any of these people who put on a Utah class personally?:

Utah Certified Instructors in Virginia
FLOYD P ALLEN
DAVID ATWELL
WILLIAM J CLARK
STEPHEN DEMMA
KENNETH ELLIOTT
BRUCE JAMES FURR
BRUCE JACKSON
WILLIAM MOE
ROBERT L PACKETT
JAMES REYNOLDS
THOMAS SMITH
SUSAN SPOFFORD
PHILIP VAN CLEAVE
JOHN VITH JR
RICHARD WOJCIECHOWSKI


Utah Permit is $65.25 to file.
Florida is $117 to file.

Is anyone else from Virginia interested in doing the Utah training too?

[RogerinTPA]

This thread about reciprocal CCW permits by state may help. You may not need one if there is a reciprocal agreement.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...=permits+state

[SHIVAN]

Utah's permit is useful for:

Alabama*
Alaska*
Arizona**
Arkansas**
Colorado*
Delaware**
Florida*
Georgia*
Idaho**
Indiana**
Kentucky**
Louisiana*
Michigan**
Minnesota**
Mississippi*
Missouri**
Montana**
Nevada**
New Hampshire*
New Mexico**
North Carolina*
North Dakota*
Ohio*
Oklahoma**
Pennsylvania*
South Dakota*
Tennessee**
Texas*
Vermont**
Virginia*
Washington State*
West Virginia*
Wyoming**


* - Formal Reciprocity
**-These states recognize the Utah concealed firearm permit:

[SHIVAN]

Florida's Permit is useful for:

Alabama (1,3,5)
Alaska (1)
Arizona (6)
Arkansas (1)
Colorado (1,4)
Delaware
Georgia (1)
Idaho (3,6)
Indiana (1,3,6)
Kansas (1,4)
Kentucky
Louisiana (1)
Michigan (1,4)
Mississippi (1)
Missouri (1)
Montana (3)
Nevada (1,6)
New Hampshire (1,3,4,6)
New Mexico (1)
North Carolina (1)
North Dakota (3,6)
Ohio (1)
Oklahoma (1)
Pennsylvania (1,6)
South Carolina (1,4,6)
South Dakota (1,3)
Tennessee (1,6)
Texas (1,3,6)
Utah (1,6)
Vermont (2)
Virginia (1,6)
West Virginia (1,4)
Wyoming (1,3)

(1) While Florida's law allows licensees to carry stun guns, knives, and billy clubs in a concealed fashion, the laws in these states allow for concealed carry of handguns or pistols ONLY, NOT WEAPONS IN GENERAL. Florida license holders are prohibited from carrying other types of weapons while in these states.

(2) The State of VERMONT is unique in that it does not issue weapon/firearms licenses. Florida licensees - indeed, licensed or unlicensed citizens from any state - may carry in Vermont. This presents a problem for reciprocity with Florida. Florida law provides that an out-of-state resident must have in his or her immediate possession a valid license to carry a concealed weapon or firearm. Since Vermont residents have no such license, the right to concealed carry cannot be extended to them under Florida law.

(3) Individuals qualify for concealed weapon licenses in these states upon reaching 18 years of age. HOWEVER, any licensee of these reciprocity states who is not 21 years of age or older IS PROHIBITED from carrying a concealed weapon or firearm in Florida.

(4) These states will honor the Florida concealed weapon license ONLY IF the licensee is a resident of the State of Florida.

(5) The Attorney General's Office of the State of ALABAMA has indicated that Alabama will honor BOTH resident and non-resident Florida licenses. However, the Alabama Attorney General notes that there is some uncertainty as to the limits of Alabama's reciprocity law as it pertains to non-resident licenses. Pending clarification by the Alabama Legislature or a decision by an Alabama court, he urges non-resident Florida license holders to exercise caution. Refer to the Alabama AG's Web page for the latest information.

(6) These states issue concealed carry licenses to qualified individuals who are non-residents. These non-resident permits cannot be honored under Florida's reciprocity provision.

[SHIVAN]

Having Virginia, Utah and Florida would carry usefulness for:

Alabama*
Alaska*
Arizona**
Arkansas**
Colorado*
Delaware**
Florida*
Georgia*
Idaho**
Indiana**
Kansas (1,4)
Kentucky**
Louisiana*
Michigan**
Minnesota**
Mississippi*
Missouri**
Montana**
Nevada**
New Hampshire*
New Mexico**
North Carolina*
North Dakota*
Ohio*
Oklahoma**
Pennsylvania*
South Carolina (1,4,6)
South Dakota*
Tennessee**
Texas*
Utah (1,6)
Vermont**
Virginia*
Washington State*
West Virginia*
Wyoming**

[DrMark]

I live in Virginia, and would like to get both a Utah and Florida concealed carry permit. Does anyone know any of these people who put on a Utah class personally?:

Utah Certified Instructors in Virginia
FLOYD P ALLEN
DAVID ATWELL
WILLIAM J CLARK
STEPHEN DEMMA
KENNETH ELLIOTT
BRUCE JAMES FURR
BRUCE JACKSON
WILLIAM MOE
ROBERT L PACKETT
JAMES REYNOLDS
THOMAS SMITH
SUSAN SPOFFORD
PHILIP VAN CLEAVE
JOHN VITH JR
RICHARD WOJCIECHOWSKI

Utah Permit is $65.25 to file.
Florida is $117 to file.

Is anyone else from Virginia interested in doing the Utah training too?

Well, I've met, chatted with, and dined with Philip Van Cleave. He's the President of VCDL <http://www.vcdl.org>. I believe Bruce Jackson is affiliated with VCDL as well.

I believe James Reynolds is the man behind http://www.proactiveshooters.com. Here's a thread of his on a Utah class back in August: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_to...39&forum_id=54

I've never taken a class from any of them, however. Sounds like a good permit to aquire.

Mark

[John Frazer]

I contacted Elliott not long ago since I recognized his name from an NRA instructor list. He responded that he doesn't teach the class regularly, and referred me to Bruce Jackson. I'm signed up to take the class from Jackson in the near future.

[SHIVAN]

Where is Bruce Jackson giving the class? Linkage?

[John Frazer]

Where is Bruce Jackson giving the class? Linkage?

Class is in the Garrisonville/Stafford area. I don't know if he has a website, but (to save him from the spambots) the message I received was from the e-mail address on the Utah DPS list of out-of-state instructors at http://www.des.utah.gov/bci/concealedinstructors.html

Class is in a couple weeks, so he may still have room available if you're in a hurry.

Hope this helps,

JF

[John Frazer]

Also noticed that Bruce Furr is on the list -- not sure if he's a new addition or if I just didn't notice. He's a nice guy and is in Fairfax County, if that's helpful.