Plate Carrier vs Chest rig

[titsonritz]

That’s exactly what I was saying I do with my Spiritus Micro.

Your statement is partly what prompted me ask the question, but you mentioned clipping into your slick PC, I'm thinking keeping them separate and independent. It may not be a major difference but I don't know, I've not swung the cost of a PC and plates but have a few chest rigs.

[Alex V]

What do you guys think of using both together? A low profile slick PC with various chest rigs, 5.56/308/subgun/12ga over the carrier.

I have a Haley chest rig that I can attach to my JPC using swift-clips. Works very well if I need to carry more.

[Wake27]

I highly recommend a chest rig and PC that interface together. The swift clips are kind of becoming the standard, with at least HSP, Velocity, and Spiritus all using the same mounting footprint. I have two different Velocity chest rugs and plate carriers, as well as a Spiritus Micro. The integration is awesome.


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[MaxtheNinja]

You wear a chest rig when you know you won’t need ballistic protection, or when you’re willing to accept the risk of rollin without due to weather, environment, or mission parameters like having to walk 10 miles before doing your shit.

Almost zero percent of the civilian population will ever be in a situation where they both need ballistic protection and have the time and foresight to don it. But I’d want one even if I wasn’t military. Plate carrier is a great way to do some load carriage PT and you never know when society is going to collapse.


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Okay, so basically two different tools. Neither to be used for the same purpose. They both hold gear, but meant for use in different situations. Cool!
Can anyone recommend a good plate carrier that won't break the bank? I've seen some on ebay for 60 dollars that get really good reviews, they are the Condor MOPC ones. I imagine that they are mostly used for stuff like airsoft though. Not real steel stuff? Or would they hold up?

[sam your]

no, that is the only use it have

[Ironman8]

That’s exactly what I was saying I do with my Spiritus Micro.

I highly recommend a chest rig and PC that interface together. The swift clips are kind of becoming the standard, with at least HSP, Velocity, and Spiritus all using the same mounting footprint. I have two different Velocity chest rugs and plate carriers, as well as a Spiritus Micro. The integration is awesome.


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I know y’all have some time doing real things with PC’s, so do either of y’all have any qualms about a PC with a double stack of gear up front? (Double stack meaning two AR mags, an AR/Pistol mag, or mag and gear stacked up)

[titsonritz]

I know y’all have some time doing real things with PC’s, so do either of y’all have any qualms about a PC with a double stack of gear up front? (Double stack meaning two AR mags, an AR/Pistol mag, or mag and gear stacked up)

That is certainly part of the equation, stuff starts getting pretty think. Most of my chest rigs are double stacked.

[APOModern]

I second the haley rig + plate carrier setup if you don't want to get pouches

[Wake27]

I know y’all have some time doing real things with PC’s, so do either of y’all have any qualms about a PC with a double stack of gear up front? (Double stack meaning two AR mags, an AR/Pistol mag, or mag and gear stacked up)

Jack probably has much more relevant experiences, but I have spent an unfortunate amount of time in full carrier and chest rig so my thoughts are below.

It’s still pretty common to see double stacked M4 mags up front amongst most regular units but I’m not a fan. I hate being bulky in any direction, but especially in the front. It makes anything where you have to bend over a giant pain in the ass, climbing over stuff is insanely difficult, and being in the prone isn’t very fun (or low profile) either. Admittedly it is easier to grab the stuff, but between a Velocity Gen IV chest rig and a Spiritus dangler, I’ve never felt the need for more storage space.

That being said, I’ve never deployed and therefore have never been in a situation where more than four mags might be warranted. Most SOF that I’m aware of are fine with 3-4 mags which has driven much of the trend for this kit, but those guys always have priority air and/or fires. If there’s a time where I could foresee wanting at least six mags on me, it’d be deployed with a regular non-combat arms unit. No organic mortars, definitely not priority for fires, and despite trying, I don’t have a ton of faith in much of my BN if we ever got into a firefight. As a work around for that worst case scenario, I have one of the newer cummerbund options for the Scarab that has internal elastic pouches for mags if it really ever came down to that.

While I hate double stacked mags, I don’t feel overly bulky with small admin stuff on top of the mags. Mostly I carry facepaint, compass, multi tool, chem lights, lube, cat crap, and lens cloth for our training events. In an actual scenario I’d obviously prioritize pistol mags or medical stuff more, but I do have a belt setup that would come out with most of that already set.


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[titsonritz]

The other benefit to having a PC is some classs require or recommend it. I took a CQB class a few summers ago where a carrier was required. If I didn't have my own, I would have to use the spare ones the instructor brought which were size L and XL. Too huge for me. I just signed up for an LAV CQB class where armor is recommended. I'm all set. Just another reason to possibly pick up a PC and plates.

That is worthy of note.