Roundup residue found in foods

[SteyrAUG]

Kill it and grill it.

If only there was such a thing as "cattle season." Not particularly challenging but I'd be out there every day with my "Moo" call and I'd have a freezer full of ribeyes.

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If only there was such a thing as "cattle season." Not particularly challenging but I'd be out there every day with my "Moo" call and I'd have a freezer full of ribeyes.

Become a rancher like me and you can look at your "buffet on the hoof" every day.

[Averageman]

I'm wondering if these trace amounts could still be found and how long would they remain in the eco-system if we stopped using round-up tomorrow?
I'm just guessing this stuff in small amounts is even in our drinking water.

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I'm wondering if these trace amounts could still be found and how long would they remain in the eco-system if we stopped using round-up tomorrow?
I'm just guessing this stuff in small amounts is even in our drinking water.

If you live in the city, I understand that your drinking water is full of residue from people's medications, too. Wastewater treatment plants can't filter out everything. So enjoy that glass of pharmaceuticals dissolved in water.

[Averageman]

If you live in the city, I understand that your drinking water is full of residue from people's medications, too. Wastewater treatment plants can't filter out everything. So enjoy that glass of pharmaceuticals dissolved in water.

I've read that before, but I would also take a SWAG and say that well water in rural area's is much more likely to contain Round-up and fertilizer's in trace amounts.
Does anyone here no how long this stuff remains before it breaks down to safe levels?

[AKDoug]

I've read that before, but I would also take a SWAG and say that well water in rural area's is much more likely to contain Round-up and fertilizer's in trace amounts.
Does anyone here no how long this stuff remains before it breaks down to safe levels?

From Wikipedia.. so who knows..

The half-life of glyphosate in soil ranges between 2 and 197 days; a typical field half-life of 47 days has been suggested. Soil and climate conditions affect glyphosate's persistence in soil. The median half-life of glyphosate in water varies from a few to 91 days.

[AKDoug]

If you live in the city, I understand that your drinking water is full of residue from people's medications, too. Wastewater treatment plants can't filter out everything. So enjoy that glass of pharmaceuticals dissolved in water.

That's only if your city is recycling waste water into drinking water, which isn't employed in 99% of the drinking water in the US. If you think you're safe on rural well water, think again. There are many areas of the country that have little to no agriculture or oil exploration that have water that exceeds gov't safe levels of certain compounds. My well water has about half of the acceptable arsenic allowed by the EPA, for example. It far exceeds arsenic levels of most major cities in the US.

How many rural people test their water? Very few I bet. I went 20 years before I did mine. I have a friend that runs the water system for a major city and they test DAILY. Yeah, Flint MI got screwed, but the majority of cities take testing seriously.

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That's only if your city is recycling waste water into drinking water, which isn't employed in 99% of the drinking water in the US. If you think you're safe on rural well water, think again. There are many areas of the country that have little to no agriculture or oil exploration that have water that exceeds gov't safe levels of certain compounds. My well water has about half of the acceptable arsenic allowed by the EPA, for example. It far exceeds arsenic levels of most major cities in the US.

How many rural people test their water? Very few I bet. I went 20 years before I did mine. I have a friend that runs the water system for a major city and they test DAILY. Yeah, Flint MI got screwed, but the majority of cities take testing seriously.

My well water actually has bacteria in it, probably because there's no backflow preventer and the cows drink from the same well. Appetizing isn't it?

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Monsanto is starting to pay the price for allegedly poisoning people:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...its-own-poison

US regulatory agencies like the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) and EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) claim that glyphosate is safe for humans and the environment.

But American courts begs to differ.

About 13,000 civil cases against Monsanto are moving through the court system.

The first three came back in favor of the plaintiffs. The evidence showed that Roundup caused cancer in people exposed to the weedkiller.

So far the price has added up to $2 billion for the company, but it looks like that is just the beginning.

Meanwhile, the parent company, Bayer, which bought Monsanto last year is quickly plummetting in value.

Bayer acquired Monsanto for $63 billion last year.

Now investors are fleeing, and the value of Bayer has fallen by 40% since it bought Monsanto. Bayer is now worth $59 billion, less than it paid for Monsanto.

My take: Not being a chemist or an SME on herbicides I'd hate to be on a jury deciding one of these lawsuits, but common sense suggests that glyphosate needs to be thoroughly studied and possibly a temporary ban placed on it at least until further data is collected. I know that would cause a trauma to the industry but surely there are alternatives.

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And another view:

http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/glyphogen.html

In humans, glyphosate does not easily pass through the skin. Glyphosate that is absorbed or ingested will pass through the body relatively quickly. The vast majority of glyphosate leaves the body in urine and feces without being changed into another chemical.

Is glyphosate likely to contribute to the development of cancer?
Animal and human studies were evaluated by regulatory agencies in the USA, Canada, Japan, Australia, and the European Union, as well as the Joint Meeting on Pesticide Residues of the United Nations and World Health Organization (WHO). These agencies looked at cancer rates in humans and studies where laboratory animals were fed high doses of glyphosate. Based on these studies, they determined that glyphosate is not likely to be carcinogenic. However, a committee of scientists working for the International Agency for Research on Cancer of the WHO evaluated fewer studies and reported that glyphosate is probably carcinogenic.

Has anyone studied non-cancer effects from long-term exposure to glyphosate?
Long-term feeding studies in animals were assessed by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and other regulatory authorities. Based on these evaluations, they found there is no evidence glyphosate is toxic to the nervous or immune systems. They also found it is not a developmental or reproductive toxin.

Are children more sensitive to glyphosate than adults?
As required by the Food Quality Protection Act, the EPA has determined that children are not more sensitive to glyphosate as compared to the general population.