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    Quote Originally Posted by austinN4 View Post
    Sounds like one of the Purge movies. I sure hope it doesn't come to that.
    Look around you. Revolution and civil war are in the air. I don't like it either but it's happening. Some people claim it's not yet as bad as it got in the 1960's, but the left and right are becoming so polarized that justice means what each side wants it to mean. I predict we are less than 10 years from people being hanged from bridges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Safari View Post
    Some people claim it's not yet as bad as it got in the 1960's, .......................
    Having lived thru the 60's, I don't believe it is.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960s#...s_and_attempts

    12 June 1963 – Medgar Evers, an NAACP field secretary. Assassinated by Byron De La Beckwith, a member of the Ku Klux Klan in Jackson, Mississippi.

    22 November 1963 – John F. Kennedy, President of the United States. Assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald while riding in a motorcade through Dealey Plaza in Dallas, Texas.

    21 February 1965 – Malcolm X. Assassinated by members of the Nation of Islam in New York City. There is a dispute about which members killed Malcolm X.

    25 August 1967 – George Lincoln Rockwell, leader of the American Nazi Party. Assassinated by John Patler in Arlington, Virginia.

    4 April 1968 – Martin Luther King Jr., civil rights leader. Assassinated by James Earl Ray in Memphis, Tennessee.

    5 June 1968 – Robert F. Kennedy, United States Senator. Assassinated by Sirhan Sirhan in Los Angeles, after taking California in the presidential national primaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinN4 View Post
    Having lived thru the 60's, I don't believe it is.
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    I too lived through the 1960's and although there was a lot more hate and violence, we recently had a radical Leftist nearly rack up the same numbers you used as an example by shooting up a single baseball practice.
    All GOP and many Senior GOP Reps.
    In the future that event may be pointed to like Harper's Ferry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fledge View Post
    This sets a precedent that a mere $3.5m is the penalty for taking power over the nation.

    Why would people want to kill Lerner? They just want to know who is ultimately behind it. Give her immunity and find the real threat/perps.
    And then kill her. Seems to me RICO statutes could even apply.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    I too lived through the 1960's and although there was a lot more hate and violence, we recently had a radical Leftist nearly rack up the same numbers you used as an example by shooting up a single baseball practice.
    All GOP and many Senior GOP Reps.
    In the future that event may be pointed to like Harper's Ferry.
    I don't want to say it's all cheery and roses, but building aren't blowing up every month, the NG didn't indiscriminately shoot a bunch of college kids and things like that. The main difference is the polarization is political rather than racial so you have to find out a little bit about somebody before you hate them and declare them to be "just like Hitler."

    Things are definitely bad, CAIR sponsors terrorism and are treated as victims of racism, alt rights and alt left movements (both of which are reasonably insane) are hijacking the mainstreams of politics while remaining an actual minority viewpoint. There is a war on cops every bit as real as the one people think exists on minorities.

    But it's still not quite as bad as 1968....yet. Doesn't mean we can't get there, but we aren't there yet.

    And the 2017 Congressional baseball shooting should be remembered with the same degree of seriousness as Kent State. It should be the example everyone trumps out anytime anyone starts saying anything negative about conservatives. It should shame people the same way being called a "nazi" makes Germans STFU to this day.
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    We're there already, difference is, this time it's political- which is how civil wars start. Vegas shooting, congressional baseball game shooting, multiple terrorists attacks, Antifa attacking people in the streets, mass riots, government employees attempting to overthrow an elected President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7n6 View Post
    We're there already, difference is, this time it's political- which is how civil wars start. Vegas shooting, congressional baseball game shooting, multiple terrorists attacks, Antifa attacking people in the streets, mass riots, government employees attempting to overthrow an elected President.
    The biggest indicator, to me, is the harassment of anyone connected to the Trump administration even when they are off-duty at a restaurant or something. That can only escalate to tires being slashed, homes being firebombed, and other atocities. If we do not get the left to dial back the violence RIGHT NOW this country will spiral into chaos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Safari View Post
    The biggest indicator, to me, is the harassment of anyone connected to the Trump administration even when they are off-duty at a restaurant or something. That can only escalate to tires being slashed, homes being firebombed, and other atocities. If we do not get the left to dial back the violence RIGHT NOW this country will spiral into chaos.
    They aren't going to dial back anything. They are going to keep pushing until they manage to regain all political control and will do so by rigging every election to their benefit. In essence, they already have control over most of the government agencies, they already control nearly all the media, so things might get sporty. I don't have a real good outlook of the future given what has gone on during this last election. The amount of corruption that is ongoing and that has been uncovered is just mind blowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Safari View Post
    The biggest indicator, to me, is the harassment of anyone connected to the Trump administration even when they are off-duty at a restaurant or something. That can only escalate to tires being slashed, homes being firebombed, and other atocities. If we do not get the left to dial back the violence RIGHT NOW this country will spiral into chaos.
    If the "Blue Wave" doesn't happen as predicted, you can expect an escalation of violence.
    My true belief is that although you cant see it now unless you look at the numbers, the DOJ and FBI are being purged as the rats are jumping ship. Those in the deep State felt that Hillary would win, when she didn't and the Muller/Russia probe began to unravel they understood they were losing the means to achieve a coup via deep state shenanigans. The potential for that to happen lessens every day.
    The DNC is in chaos as the Old Guard like Pelosi are being called to step down for the betterment of the Party. They plan to go hard Left, that is likely not going to work outside of the few Deep Blue costal States. Pelosi isn't going to go down without a fight and most normal people like the economy as it is right now, so socialist programs and agenda wont have overwhelming support.
    I predict the GOP gains seats.
    The Muller probe dies a death that will be blamed on Trump.
    Our Doddering Fool of an Attorney General will be replaced and a firebrand will take the reigns.
    When their agenda cannot be met by peaceful political means and elections you'll see the violence.

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    Averageman posted this in another thread and seems appropriate to post it here as well.


    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    Great article, an even better list;
    https://www.redstate.com/diary/Eliza...oming-big-hide
    But many on this list have been fired, or forced out (largely in disgrace) or demoted, because of the Trump/Russia investigation.

    FBI Departures:

    James Comey, director (fired)
    Andrew McCabe, deputy director (fired)
    Peter Strzok, counterintelligence expert (fired)
    Lisa Page, attorney (demoted; resigned)
    James Rybicki, chief of staff (resigned)
    James Baker, general counsel (resigned)
    Mike Kortan, assistant director for public affairs (resigned)
    Josh Campbell, special assistant to James Comey (resigned)
    James Turgal, executive assistant director (resigned)
    Greg Bower, assistant director for office of congressional affairs (resigned)
    Michael Steinbach, executive assistant director (resigned)
    John Giacalone, executive assistant director (resigned)
    DOJ Departures:

    Sally Yates, deputy attorney general (fired)
    Bruce Ohr, associate deputy attorney general (twice demoted)
    David Laufman, counterintelligence chief (resigned)
    Rachel Brand, deputy attorney general (resigned)
    Trisha Beth Anderson, office of legal counsel for FBI (demoted or reassigned*)
    John P. Carlin, assistant attorney general (resigned)
    Peter Kadzik, assistant attorney general, congressional liaison (resigned)
    Mary McCord, acting assistant attorney general (resigned)
    Matthew Axelrod, principal assistant to deputy attorney general (resigned)
    Preet Bharara, U.S. attorney, SDNY (fired along with 45 other U.S. Attorneys)
    Sharon McGowan, civil rights division (resigned)
    Diana Flynn, litigation director for LGBTQ civil rights (resigned)
    Vanita Gupta, civil rights division (resigned)
    Joel McElvain, assistant branch director of the civil division (resigned)
    *Status Unclear

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