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    Interest in FAMAS G2 (NATO mags) with pic rail???

    Interest in FAMAS G2 (NATO mags) with pic rail???

    I think it would be pretty cool.

    TED

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    Always thought the F1 took NATO magazines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Always thought the F1 took NATO magazines.
    Well, it wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong!! Maybe there was a previous edition that also took NATO mags but I am fairly sure that the G2 takes NATO mags.

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    The F1 takes proprietary magazines and the G2 takes STANAG magazines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TED View Post
    Well, it wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong!! Maybe there was a previous edition that also took NATO mags but I am fairly sure that the G2 takes NATO mags.

    TED
    Was more of a question than a statement. I actually like the profile of the original rifle to the current one, but neither would be worth my time. I remember seeing the F1 in person on Bastille Day in 1984. First time I ever saw a real bullpup up close.

    The other thing that was amazing was the willingness of the French to literally destroy their roads in order to parade tanks down the street. They were actually chewing up the asphalt and leaving tank tracks in the road that were 4-6 inches deep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I remember seeing the F1 in person on Bastille Day in 1984. First time I ever saw a real bullpup up close.

    The other thing that was amazing was the willingness of the French to literally destroy their roads in order to parade tanks down the street. They were actually chewing up the asphalt and leaving tank tracks in the road that were 4-6 inches deep.

    Way cool, did you happen to see the Foreign Legion Pioneers march in the parade (they would have been bearded gents wearing ceremonial leather aprons and carrying axes)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    Way cool, did you happen to see the Foreign Legion Pioneers march in the parade (they would have been bearded gents wearing ceremonial leather aprons and carrying axes)?
    They were probably there, but I wouldn't have known what to look for and don't recall.
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    I'm on another continent than where my home is, so don't have reference to my gun books. But memory says that the F1 was rifled to accurately shoot 55-grain 5.56 bullets, just as NATO was fixin' to standardize on 62-grain bullets. So the French had to keep shooting non-NATO rounds using non-NATO magazines.

    Eventually those guns needed replacement and the French got STANAG religion and ended up with some number of the G2 version. Which were built for NATO magazines and the NATO 5.56 rounds. But then they just did away with their own small-arms development and have started replacing all FAMAS with the H&K 416.

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    To stoke the bullpup salivation, let me remind you of the 2017 stories of the Aussie bullpup coming to the US market. There were multiple stories of Lithgow USA selling semi-auto versions or the Lithgow F90 ATRAX soon, very soon, early 2017.

    Follow by total radio silence. Nada. No reports of any further progress on that. But we can hope.

    Oh well, SHOT Show 2019?

    Bart Noir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart Noir View Post
    I'm on another continent than where my home is, so don't have reference to my gun books. But memory says that the F1 was rifled to accurately shoot 55-grain 5.56 bullets, just as NATO was fixin' to standardize on 62-grain bullets. So the French had to keep shooting non-NATO rounds using non-NATO magazines.

    Eventually those guns needed replacement and the French got STANAG religion and ended up with some number of the G2 version. Which were built for NATO magazines and the NATO 5.56 rounds. But then they just did away with their own small-arms development and have started replacing all FAMAS with the H&K 416.

    Bart Noir
    Only the navy bought any G2 rifles. Total G2 production was around 20k out of the near 400k Famas rifles made. The army modernized their F1 guns but the 25rd proprietary magazines and 1-12 twist barrels remained. I have heard it parroted that they need steel case to run but I have never seen a French Soldier with anything but brass, those that I have talked to have seen nothing but brass, ATK is the french supplier for 5.56 which to my knowledge does not have the capacity to produce steel cased rifle ammo on that scale, and I have been unable to find a photo of french steel cased ammo googling in both english or french, so...

    The Famas is a good rifle(quirks aside) but because it is French it is sometimes hard to have a meaningful discussion about it. For better or worse french things are usually distinctly French and the Famas is no exception.

    It is unlikely but if we get the kits I will snatch some up.

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