Mk 262 - Military usage

[indianalex01]

This from experience?

Yes actually. Taken deer with MK318 and Fusion. M262 I have seen reports on. All 3 I have seen in geletin blocks. The victim will not know the difference with any of the 3-4 loads. When I was overseas we still had the M855 2005 Usmc. I like the MK318 SOST the most. Accurate and hits hard. Great barrier penetration

[1168]

Not hard to see why the Mk262 could be put to use...poke holes at distance and let the SOB's bleed it out. And somewhere "used successfully" becomes "effective".

In my experience, Mk262 is effective, not just used successfully, in unobstructed live tissue. I can agree that it is sub-optimal for barriers. 855a1, SOST, TSX, or BSPs are probably better choices for general use.

[C-grunt]

M262 is definitely effective. I dont think it makes a great general issue round because of barrier penetration issues, but the round is definitely effective against people.

[hotrodder636]

I don’t want to go search for it but a while back a former user on here, Molon, did accuracy testing on the MK318. It was less than stellar but better than the standard ball (M855 or M193).

Yes actually. Taken deer with MK318 and Fusion. M262 I have seen reports on. All 3 I have seen in geletin blocks. The victim will not know the difference with any of the 3-4 loads. When I was overseas we still had the M855 2005 Usmc. I like the MK318 SOST the most. Accurate and hits hard. Great barrier penetration

[WS6]

M262 is definitely effective. I dont think it makes a great general issue round because of barrier penetration issues, but the round is definitely effective against people.

I know multiple hunters who have used it on hogs within 100 yards that report boring ice pick wounds, all gel, lab, and war stories aside. Hearing it from 1 person, I was a bit skeptical, but having heard it from several, I think mk262 is best used on steel and paper. We have 70gr gmx, tsx, gold dot, etc...lets use that instead. Mk262 was made for people without better options. I feel like using it is similar to people who carry Israeli style.

[WS6]

I don’t doubt you are right, because I really don’t know. Maybe I’ll see what twist my .22-250 is and see if I can figure out gel. What I have heard on the internet (I know, hearsay) is that Speer is concerned about cops putting 5.56 in crummy .223 guns. 75gr Gold Dot, for example is loaded quite weak. If 62 MSR can handle 2,700 fps, why does 75 GD have to move so slow?

I've got a friend that did a ton of testing on 75gr gdsp for me. Long story short, it works fine at higher speeds...however...there are legal reasons federal no longer sells 5.56 gold dot openly. There are a few existing contracts I believe, or were, but it's not a standard item and its loaded to order.

Several things to keep in mind with all ammo...

...expansion at the low end can be quirky...variances in core hardness, etc. matter a lot.
...claimed BC is usually wrong...sometimes VERY wrong. Lose you 100+ yards of expansion envelope wrong...
...projectile evolution is often silent and done on a running basis. Your 2015 lot may use an entirely different projectile from your 2017 lot, even though visually it's the same

[C-grunt]

I shot a guy at 410 meters with M262 out of my SDM-R. Hit him right below the belly button, fragmented, and two pieces exited his lower back.

Everyone I know who have shot dudes with M262, only a handful truthfully, has not complained about ice pick wounds.

Like I said, there are better options, but from my experience M262 is very effective against people.

[vicious_cb]

I shot a guy at 410 meters with M262 out of my SDM-R. Hit him right below the belly button, fragmented, and two pieces exited his lower back.

Everyone I know who have shot dudes with M262, only a handful truthfully, has not complained about ice pick wounds.

Like I said, there are better options, but from my experience M262 is very effective against people.

Id be impressed if a bullet did anything more than tumble and exit at 410m. The fact that it fragmented at that distance is impressive. Did it hit bone?

[C-grunt]

No idea. I just talked with the medic who examined the bodies when they showed up at the hospital the day after the firefight. The insurgents in my AO in 2005 were pretty good at taking their wounded when possible.

[C-grunt]

I just ran a quick ballistic calculator for M262 out of a 20 inch barrel. Its known to fragment reliably down to 1900 FPS and it hits 1900 FPS right at about 400 meters.