For those of you running home defense ARs do you use hollow point 5.56/.223?

[indianalex01]

People misconstrue this all the time. Barrier blind does not mean more penetration through walls, it just means it maintains its terminal performance after striking a barrier. Often times barrier blind SPs penetrate less interior walls than FMJ or OTM which tends to stay together but veers off unpredictably after striking a barrier.

Good post. I laugh when people say things like “I’m so worried about my neighbors.” Come on man.

[Ron3]

People misconstrue this all the time. Barrier blind does not mean more penetration through walls, it just means it maintains its terminal performance after striking a barrier. Often times barrier blind SPs penetrate less interior walls than FMJ or OTM which tends to stay together but veers off unpredictably after striking a barrier.

That's just it.

I don't want it to maintain terminal performance after striking a barrier if I miss, don't connect well, or do connect well. I want the bullet to be less deadly after it passes the bad guy one way or the other.

I understand this means that if I need to shoot through a barrier to get the bad guy a "non-barrier blind" bullet will be "less dangerous" when it gets to him. I'm willing to give that performance up if it means less bullets leave the house.

What I'm comparing directly is Federal 64 gr JSP T223L and 55 gr Gold Dot.

[Ron3]

Good post. I laugh when people say things like “I’m so worried about my neighbors.” Come on man.

Why is that funny? I like my neighbors.

[1168]

That's just it.

I don't want it to maintain terminal performance after striking a barrier if I miss, don't connect well, or do connect well. I want the bullet to be less deadly after it passes the bad guy one way or the other.

I understand this means that if I need to shoot through a barrier to get the bad guy a "non-barrier blind" bullet will be "less dangerous" when it gets to him. I'm willing to give that performance up if it means less bullets leave the house.

What I'm comparing directly is Federal 64 gr JSP T223L and 55 gr Gold Dot.

Sir, you seek the Grail of defense projectiles. One that turns to dust, POOF!, upon passing whatever range the bad guy is at, with zero retained kinetic energy on a miss, but liquifies a bad guy’s organs on a hit, coming neatly to rest 1” behind him on the floor. Enjoy the quest, but perfect is the enemy of good. Firearms are designed to project deadly force. If “over-penetration” is your greatest concern, buy an axe.

[vicious_cb]

That's just it.

I don't want it to maintain terminal performance after striking a barrier if I miss, don't connect well, or do connect well. I want the bullet to be less deadly after it passes the bad guy one way or the other.

I understand this means that if I need to shoot through a barrier to get the bad guy a "non-barrier blind" bullet will be "less dangerous" when it gets to him. I'm willing to give that performance up if it means less bullets leave the house.

What I'm comparing directly is Federal 64 gr JSP T223L and 55 gr Gold Dot.

Its basically a pipe dream to have a bullet that becomes less than lethal after going through 2 sheets of dry wall AND having sufficient penetration on a bad guy.

[Ron3]

So, your telling me .223 will penetrate people and things as much as a 9mm if I choose something "more effective" than a ballistic tip bullet that likely won't penetrate "enough" bad guy to stop him.

Then why not just use a shotgun and #1 or #4 buckshot? Two to six inches of buckshot spread will be a superior, faster wound than one or a few .223 shots and poor sectional-density soft .30 or .24 caliber pellets won't penetrate as much stuff and walls as a "more effective" .223 load.

[indianalex01]

Why is that funny? I like my neighbors.

Because no matter what 223 round you use it will be dangerous. Some of you are such keyboard commandos. Another guy just posted about Being concerned after the round exits the bad guy. Some of the dumb shit is astonishing.

[Ron3]

Because no matter what 223 round you use it will be dangerous..

Some more or less than others. Do you disagree with that?

[vicious_cb]

So, your telling me .223 will penetrate people and things as much as a 9mm if I choose something "more effective" than a ballistic tip bullet that likely won't penetrate "enough" bad guy to stop him.

Then why not just use a shotgun and #1 or #4 buckshot? Two to six inches of buckshot spread will be a superior, faster wound than one or a few .223 shots and poor sectional-density soft .30 or .24 caliber pellets won't penetrate as much stuff and walls as a "more effective" .223 load.

No we're saying just pick a bonded SP which is highly unlikely to exit your house, it will however penetrate interior dry wall. Or get something like 77gr TMK which will penetrate one less interior wall than a bonded SP but not be barrier blind .

[RHINOWSO]

Ron the best plan is this - don't miss the target.