Purchase a bunch of 10-22s and Mosberg 590s and slings for all.
That should adequately arm your neighbor’s well enough.
I know that I don’t want a .22LR in my hide.
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Purchase a bunch of 10-22s and Mosberg 590s and slings for all.
That should adequately arm your neighbor’s well enough.
I know that I don’t want a .22LR in my hide.
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I'm in California. Multiple guns would be nice but right now I'm concentrating on my AR. Full auto is not the problem. For us, the problem are 10 round magazines. That is just not enough. There are stays and loopholes in the law right now but in a SHTF situation, it should be expected everyone will somehow find 30 round magazines.
It depends.
Are you going to have to be mobile to get out of an urban area? In that case you must travel light and inconspicuous as possible - if your vehicle dies, you need to walk. So likely 1 pistol / 1 rifle is going to be the max anyone can move with for any length of time.
If you hunker down, there isn't really a downside to having more weapons and ammo - arm your family / friends, use it as trade fodder, you name it.
Concerning NFA, I have a bunch of stuff already and as Yoni mentioned, braces make short, full power weapons concealable and available to many more people. I'm not going to be making anything, as I don't need full auto - if shit has gone that sideways, I'll scrounge some up after a battle is over.
If we're talking about societal collapse who is going to come around and check for stamps?
If we're talking about some localized event like Hurricane Katrina, the rule of law is still in effect in unaffected areas. If you get hemmed up in the effected area or not is more akin to a roll of the proverbial dice.
In either scenario the hall monitors are going to have bigger fish to fry.
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I mean Katrina was the one where they were going around and collecting everyone's guns wasn't it? There were fights after in court and it was rulled wrong. Doesn't mean they will not do it again. I'd have everything legal. SHTF for most will be a riot or something in their area, law will not be completely broken down, at least not for long. Do you want to be caught with something illegal? It may come back to bite you.
Posting something like this is pretty stupid. They apply unless it clearly doesn't matter. You'll need to figure that out on your own.
Yup. Especially when you tell people online you're thinking about doing it!
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"Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree
Im not actually thinking about doing this or thinking about doing anything illegal. I have a lot to lose. And I don't plan on losing everything over a firearm. This is just something I was pondering and I think it had a lot more to do with the overall mentality than with guns. I see a lot of people talking about bugging out or having a bug out car, bug out kit but I wonder if they have a place to go, a place to rest, a place to stay for an extended time. A place that was not just off grid but a place that had the same feel as home with gas, electricity, air conditioning. To me, when people talk about SHTF, they always talk about leaving, being off the grid, living like nomads.
When I hear "offgrid" or "SHTF" I just assume people are referring to an "outlaw" state of mind. Most of us could not life off the grid for long. Im sure some of you could handle it, but I doubt any of you are willing to walk away from the equity in your home, walk away from everything you know or walk away from having health insurance, TV, cable, internet etc.
Obviously, this question is mostly geared towards a total collapse. I doubt that will ever happen in the US, maybe a few states but only for a certain length of time. I picture something like a massive earthquake followed by severe floods in California, Oregon and Washington that causes trillions in damage and leaves hundreds of thousands dead and millions homeless. Something like that would consume the US capital reserves for many years. I would think that total or at least massive evacuation would be mandatory and enforced and 99% of people would be willing to pack it up and head to another state and start over, especially if the government was willing to give significant money. But for a few, I think they would stay behind and possibly try to live undetected. There might be a few who send there family on but stay behind to protect what's left of there home. In events like this, it makes me wonder what would happen.
This describes my thoughts on the topic. Additionally, by going the AR pistol route, you have the ability to train and practice with your gun legally before any STHF incidents occur.
I recently bought a Daniel Defense V7 pistol that I swapped the brace for an SBA3 brace. The bottom of the brace would bend when it caught my chest. I bought something called the split kit which replaces the elastic on the brace for stiffer webbing. Issue fixed.
But with all that said, depending on where I would be during a major SHTF incident, I might still prefer to be armed with a 16” carbine. So NFA would be a non-issue for me in most cases.
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