"The Ranger School Conspiracy"

[WillBrink]

This issue of women in Ranger School seems to have re surfaced. I did not know one was a 37 year old mother of 2. That does seem to stretch the believability factor rather far, but I was not there. If this is legit info, it does not bode well:

The Ranger School Conspiracy

"...Congressman Steve Russell, a former army officer and Ranger School graduate demanded to see the Ranger School records for Griest and Haver. His attempts to obtain the records were repeatedly thwarted by Secretary of Army John McHugh.

Russell was then informed that both Griest and Haver’s records had been destroyed, in violation of army policy. Russell’s requests to view the Green Cards, or Ranger School transcripts for the two women were also denied. To date, Russell has received nothing from the army.

Two months later, Major Lisa Jaster, a 37 year old mother of two ‘graduated’ from Ranger School, in what can only be described as a Diversity Bridge too Far, in the army’s attempts to prove that women can successfully graduate from the course. A 37 year old man graduating from the school is miraculous, a 37 year old mommy of two graduating is a fraud."

Cont:

http://usdefensewatch.com/2018/09/th...ol-conspiracy/

[Moose-Knuckle]

Identity politics are a thing, nothing would surprise me to the extent some would go to invent heroes for their culture war.

[Wake27]

I have a few issues with that article. I wouldn’t quite call it a miracle for a 37 year old male to graduate, we had a 41 year old Chaplain do it within the last year or two. Similarity, a woman doing it does not automatically make her a fraud. Blanket statements like that do not deserve any credibility. That being said, I have no personal experience, but have heard several stories that are no bueno from guys who have gone recently.


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[Arik]

I don't get what kids have to do with it?

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[Falar]

I can't believe the Trump administration has done nothing to walk back the Obama-era integration BS.

You want to make everything equal? Then make women sign up for the draft too and take away their separate, pathetic PT standards and body fat %s.

[Co-gnARR]

I don't get what kids have to do with it?

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My friends’ daughter graduated USNA and became a pilot. Everything was fine career wise til she had a child and was deemed ineligible to fly, despite no long term changes in fitness or general health. I don’t know the reason why, but maybe the same mentality (child birth limits women) exists with the author of the linked article. Without sufficient evidence to support that belief, I think it is merely a broad based assumption that women are compromised after childbirth. Probably true in many cases, but not necessarily in every case.

[Wake27]

take away their separate, pathetic PT standards and body fat %s.

They’re working on it.


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[FromMyColdDeadHand]

The Chaplain had God on his side...

It's not that kids disqualify you, hell, it may had taught her how to handle pain and swelling better. On the other hand, tickling her hard and not peeing herself may have been a hard test to pass.

[ramairthree]

It is not that no women at all exist that can pass Ranger school.

it is that you have taken a school with about a 50% pass rate for young above average military males,
And are jumping through hoops screening thousands of women to get a few hundred canidates, to end up with a few dozen to pass pre Ranger, all while getting months and months of special duty to train the males do not get, to end up with a handful of graduates with do over phases and retrys to an extreme that would be very unusual for a male.

The goal is to get women graduates.
The goal is to put women in combat arms and SOF slots.

The goal to put women in slots at the expense of the effectiveness of units.

[Averageman]

You can pick out the Male Enlisted Guys who want to attend Ranger School.
I used to pass them at 0530 when they were coming back with their rucks, they have a pained look on their face and they are running with a ruck that is likely 75 pounds. Everyone of those guys is putting in nights and weekends plus doing everything else the .mil throws at them.
It's a fraud to think that if you must make so many allowances for a candidate to pass that they will ever be able to serve.