And This is How Civil Wars Begin....

[Diamondback]

The situation is ripe for a false flag OP where an illegal is killed and made to look like militia did it. Commies then make patron saints of the dead.

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A cynical, sociopathic sort might consider doing the reverse to one of our side and fanning the flames that way... what worries me is that just by its existence that powder keg tempts people who Think Like Bad Guys because they ARE. (As opposed to those of us who only TLBG to understand what we're up against...)

[26 Inf]

I see somebody needs a reminder of where the border is, and that they don't get to harass OUR guys on OUR side of it...
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/polit...der/index.html

Did you read the article:

One of the American soldiers spoke some Spanish and was able to explain the situation to the Mexican forces. The two sides talked the incident over and promised to de-conflict in the future, the officials said.

"An inquiry by (Customs and Border Patrol) and (the Department of Defense) revealed that the Mexican military members believed that the US Army soldiers were south of the border," Northern Command said while adding that the US troops were north of the border.

"Though they were south of the border fence, US soldiers remained in US territory, north of the actual border," the statement said, adding that "after a brief discussion between the soldiers from the two nations, the Mexican military members departed the area."

Private Juan got a little lost. No need to make it worse than need be, sounds like our guys did a fairly good job in handling the situation, although I'm sure some folks would have them going to handguns (apparently one, at least) versus rifles.

With the announced build up of troops on the border, one would reasonable expect Mexico to also increase presence along the border. Sounds like our troops have been briefed on what to do when contacting Mexican military.

Just my thoughts.

[ABNAK]

Did you read the article:

One of the American soldiers spoke some Spanish and was able to explain the situation to the Mexican forces. The two sides talked the incident over and promised to de-conflict in the future, the officials said.

"An inquiry by (Customs and Border Patrol) and (the Department of Defense) revealed that the Mexican military members believed that the US Army soldiers were south of the border," Northern Command said while adding that the US troops were north of the border.

"Though they were south of the border fence, US soldiers remained in US territory, north of the actual border," the statement said, adding that "after a brief discussion between the soldiers from the two nations, the Mexican military members departed the area."

Private Juan got a little lost. No need to make it worse than need be, sounds like our guys did a fairly good job in handling the situation, although I'm sure some folks would have them going to handguns (apparently one, at least) versus rifles.

With the announced build up of troops on the border, one would reasonable expect Mexico to also increase presence along the border. Sounds like our troops have been briefed on what to do when contacting Mexican military.

Just my thoughts.

The statement you quote contradicts itself (not your doing, the way they wrote it). Are there "border fence" sections that actually sit a little ways back from the actual border?

This is far from the first time armed Mexican military personnel have crossed the border. They should be shot, and if retreating across the border for "safety" after such an incident they should be hunted down by Apaches and smoked. What exactly is Mexico gonna do about it? It would be for an unprovoked armed incursion into our country. I don't care about their lives, I care about our people.

[tb-av]

Are there "border fence" sections that actually sit a little ways back from the actual border?

I thought all the border fences were on setbacks. Well maybe not all but most. I thought there was always a buffer zone between the barrier and the actual defined lines.

[vicious_cb]

A cynical, sociopathic sort might consider doing the reverse to one of our side and fanning the flames that way... what worries me is that just by its existence that powder keg tempts people who Think Like Bad Guys because they ARE. (As opposed to those of us who only TLBG to understand what we're up against...)

Isnt that kinda what the Christchurch guy tried to do?

[RobertTheTexan]

Isnt that kinda what the Christchurch guy tried to do?

Survey says.... yess.


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[AndyLate]

Did you read the article:

One of the American soldiers spoke some Spanish and was able to explain the situation to the Mexican forces. The two sides talked the incident over and promised to de-conflict in the future, the officials said.

"An inquiry by (Customs and Border Patrol) and (the Department of Defense) revealed that the Mexican military members believed that the US Army soldiers were south of the border," Northern Command said while adding that the US troops were north of the border.

"Though they were south of the border fence, US soldiers remained in US territory, north of the actual border," the statement said, adding that "after a brief discussion between the soldiers from the two nations, the Mexican military members departed the area."

Private Juan got a little lost. No need to make it worse than need be, sounds like our guys did a fairly good job in handling the situation, although I'm sure some folks would have them going to handguns (apparently one, at least) versus rifles.

With the announced build up of troops on the border, one would reasonable expect Mexico to also increase presence along the border. Sounds like our troops have been briefed on what to do when contacting Mexican military.

Just my thoughts.

I agree that our guys defused the situation well and probably prevented a very ugly outcome.

I am also pretty sure the Mexican Army guys were more likely protecting a cartel operation/asset than Mexico's sovereignty.

Andy

[ABNAK]

I agree that our guys defused the situation well and probably prevented a very ugly outcome.

I am also pretty sure the Mexican Army guys were more likely protecting a cartel operation/asset than Mexico's sovereignty.

Andy

Yep! I don't trust the "integrity" of anything coming out of Mexico, wearing a uniform or not.

Actually "defusing" the situation makes us look weak. Not sure if they were armed with anything but a pistol, but the US military and CBP guys actually on the border itself should be toting M4's with basic combat load-outs, with orders to use them in such situations. Those Mexican "soldiers" weren't confused about where they were......they were doing exactly what you said they were.

[Averageman]

Yep! I don't trust the "integrity" of anything coming out of Mexico, wearing a uniform or not.

Actually "defusing" the situation makes us look weak. Not sure if they were armed with anything but a pistol, but the US military and CBP guys actually on the border itself should be toting M4's with basic combat load-outs, with orders to use them in such situations. Those Mexican "soldiers" weren't confused about where they were......they were doing exactly what you said they were.

Well someone has the right idea, unfortunately "helping" the Border Patrol means you're a racist. The Governor could simply put a well armed National Guard on the border, but being a virtue signalling liberal and a progressive socialist those ideas prevents that from happening.
I'm just saying that if you're not going to fix the problem, just let the citizens living on the border take care of it. BTW, they need a backhoe and if they had one, you wouldn't hear about these issues.

[AndyLate]

"Regular citizens have no authority to detain or arrest anyone."

Patently untrue, regular citizens generally are allowed to detain a person who committed a crime, even a misdemeanor, in their presence. Regular citizens can arrest anyone with a felony arrest warrant in New Mexico as well.

A person could make the case that a militia guarding the US border is constitutionally protected, that's pretty much the second amendment word for word.

The fact that the ACLU immediately called the militia fascists is an indicator that the only liberties they are concerned about are socialist liberties.

I do have to say, stumbling upon an armed pregnant Santa Claus wearing a black t-shirt could be scary...