And This is How Civil Wars Begin....

[26 Inf]

I was specifically speaking to 26Inf’s statement about being in the middle shooting 70% of the people on either side. That would not work out too well, I don’t think.

You mistook my statement, or I miss-wrote the statement, which is not that unusual.

The 70% I alluded to will be the moderates, trying to head the whole thing off.

Here in the internet 'echo chambers' folks forget that not everyone feels as they do, much less with the same degree of passion. I'm talking both right and left. There was a thread where we discussed group think the other day that kind of hit on this theme.

Staying completely neutral and out of the fight can work, if you are useful and valuable enough to both sides and can maintain that incredibly fragile balance, that is. If my take on history is correct, folks did just that during the Civil War. My thought is that I would move to avoid raising arms against fellow Americans.

[26 Inf]

We really need to stay in our lane, Wingman.
We are totally out of our element.

Yes, it often seems that way, problem is the shared like of firearms and our 2nd Amendment Rights.

I'm shaking my head right now at the number of folks who are romanticizing the prospect of violent upheaval.

[THCDDM4]

I apologize if I misread or misunderstood. That makes more sense now, for sure.

Absolutely. There are a lot of “echo chambers” out there. I visit most of them from time to time to observe and post in a few.

One of the things I try to do is understand all “sides” even if I don’t agree with them. It’s helped me to better understand people in general and to debate people and speak to them more effectively.

I am definitely a love thy neighbor dude. I just want to be left alone and free to do as I wish and let others do the same as long as we don’t mess with each others rights/freedoms. I’ve never wished I’ll will on anyone, had to serve some up when forced by them to do so, unfortunately. But that’s just life sometimes, can’t get away from it all the time and you have to fight.

I fear that dodging and hiding too long also can have far reaching consequences. My main goal right now is to speak face to face with as many people of opossing views as possible and maintain decorum and get through to them and allow them to get through to me if they are reasonable and logical.

It’s working pretty well most of the time, not so well some of the time.

I’m also a “hope and work for the best but also prepare for the worst” type of dude.

[flenna]

I'm shaking my head right now at the number of folks who are romanticizing the prospect of violent upheaval.

"Granted. But mark my words. This war will not be fought on the frontier or on some distant battlefield, but amongst us- among our homes. Our children will learn of it with their own eyes. And the innocent will die with the rest of us."

-Benjamin Martin in The Patriot

[GRA556]

I’ve seen other tweets and social media post saying “it would be ok for that school to be shot up”

Yes I've seen this very same thing and more than once and referencing more than schools as a target and it really bothers me because you can sort of tell when folks are saying this and they're actually serious about it.

I fear it is only going to get worse. I saw a video today on FB (from Dinesh D'Souza) that showed some assholes perpetrating behavior that was extremely racist and violent in nature and it was here in the USA. I thought to myself that what I was seeing is coincidentally the same thing we've been seeing happening in Zimbabwe and South Africa with violence against whites. Indeed that madness will only escalate as it's already here. Very bothersome to say the least.

[Moose-Knuckle]

Do you really think there is anyone so confused as to be in the middle? Do you really think anyone so totally confused as to be in the middle would take up arms? Do you really think any militia which was so totally confused would stop anything or be an effective fighting force?

When the Left finally goes completely off the rails, there will be enough individuals willing to "take care of them" and I can only hope to be part of that and only hope law enforcement and the military and some confused do-gooders will step aside and just let it all play out.

Just read here in the GD sub-forum on this firearm centric message board and you'll find the answers to your query. A good place to start is with the first quote in my sig line. Well that and this thread lolz.

If I were Supreme Dictator of the faction on the right, the very first thing I'd do would not be to engage the leftists at will. No, my first command would be to set up internment camps. Not for all the captured leftists. No, it would be to hold all the hard right extremists who'd shoot us in the foot and hand the PR war to the left.

Sadly, they're more dangerous than most of the people we'd be fighting against on the other side.

Some of you guys have essentially outed yourselves on a public forum who's side you're really on. I don't know who you all are tying to convince or perhaps it's just a gross level of naivety?

Tell me who carried out all those millions of murders via democide in the 20th Century? Were they of left or right political philosophies?

[grnamin]

If civil war breaks out we our military to defend us from our foreign enemies who will surely take advantage.

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[MountainRaven]

Tell me who carried out all those millions of murders via democide in the 20th Century? Were they of left or right political philosophies?

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It was whoever was in power.

And who is in power, now?

[Leuthas]

It was whoever was in power.

And who is in power, now?

I think that's profoundly simplistic, and incorrect with regard to causality (not happenstance). Maybe I'm reading you wrong; Certainly you aren't implying those death tolls would have come about anyway had the socialist revolutions of the early 20th century never happened? The subject here is more of ideologies than the individuals who happened to parade them.

I'm curious about the second part as it's obviously rhetorical, but I'm not seeing far enough ahead to know what you're getting at. Trump is unfortunately a big government statist, and if you were to place him on a 2 dimensional Left/Right spectrum, using the American definitions of 'what is left' and 'what is right', he's clearly quite left of center. Trump doesn't seem to share any relevant qualities with Hitler, Stalin or Mao.

[Honu]

It was whoever was in power.

And who is in power, now?

the left is in many ways they are driving the narrative that killing babies is great and everyone should do it and now NY is even praising do it up to birth !
the left believes they are in absolute power and the media is %95 behind them and controlled by the left including both apple and MS and google and facebook and so on so the left is in power and its why we are having so many issues

the left is so happy to have more black babies killed in NY then born !!!! that is not the conservative right !! that is the left that is praising this as awesome

and you bring up who is in power did you mean now ? OK lets look he is trying to get us out of conflict where we should not be and obama got us into more conflicts and created more wars then any other president in history

and lets look at history and who was in power see what party was in power signed us into war WWI and WWII and Korea and Vietnam etc.. yeah kinda once again proof of who likes to kill and control people

when the left says abortion is empowering ? that is about taking a life !! the left loves to take lives for power
they preach about control of your body by taking a life !!! that is what the left is about

bring up history who did not want to get rid of slavery again the dems the left in both north and south and they were the reason of what the US knows as our civil war !!