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    Quote Originally Posted by Circle_10 View Post
    I almost feel like while I'm sitting around waiting for Civil War 2 to pop off, I'm fighting another war against time, which is ticking away. I'm going to be 40 in a couple years. I'm afraid of fighting a literal war at 38 but I'm *really* afraid of fighting one at 68.
    We're already in CW2 - 4GW edition. We have been for several years now. It's not at all hot right now, and it may never get hot, or it might be raging in a few weeks' time. Who knows. There was no formal declaration, there probably never will be, and it will never formally end, just run out of steam at some point. In 300+ years historians will refer to this as the "American empire's age of crisis." Somewhat like the Roman Empire's crisis:

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Crisis..._Third_Century

    or to a lesser extent, the crisis of the Roman Republic:

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Crisis...Roman_Republic

    Stay away from crowds and enjoy life. Be ready for worse things, but don't obsess about it. Chill.

    I wouldn't live or work in a powderkeg city though. If you currently do, now's the time to find a new job someplace happier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I was unconvinced until I read this shit...

    August 19, 2018: Dad Dares Daughter To Knock Off Guy’s MAGA Hat For 100 Bucks. She Does It.

    That combined with the destruction of Trumps star on the Walk of Fame have me loading magazines.

    Seriously 90% of that shit is nonsense and both sides go back and forth with the same nonsense.
    You need to help me out and use the little facey thingies to let me know for sure when you are being ironic.
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    Every Communist must grasp the truth. Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party Mao Zedong, 6 November, 1938 - speech to the Communist Patry of China's sixth Central Committee

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerplode View Post
    There isn't going to be a war. I'll just be progressives burning shit while conservatives complain on the internet, and in 10 years the US will be unrecognizable.
    They said that 10 years ago and the country remains completely imperfect but still a long way off from imploding. Some things got better, some things got worse. Expect more of the same in the next 10 years.

    The people who think there is going to be an ACTUAL civil war are delusional. The simple fact is there is no money in it and even worse for government, no guarantees of security. People in Congress, both sides, want you going to work so they can pick your pocket for social security, income taxes, etc. During a civil war all of that reliable revenue simply disappears.

    People who think there is going to be an economic catastrophe having been paying attention. Already happened and it was called the housing crash where all those "working people" saw their primary investment lose all of it's gained value and then watched as their tax dollars bailed out the banks and wall street who all profited from the housing market bubble.

    Go back another 10 years and it was the collapse of 401ks where working folks saw their second primary investment become almost worthless. Seeing a trend? Basically working people, those who purchased a home with the intention of paying their mortgage and those who planned for their future simply keep getting their pockets picked hard. But if you have a 1930s type of crash, working people are no longer there to provide all that reliable revenue.

    Congress will do whatever they can to keep that money train (you) chugging down the tracks.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Congress will do whatever they can to keep that money train (you) chugging down the tracks.
    Ain't that the damn truth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    You need to help me out and use the little facey thingies to let me know for sure when you are being ironic.
    Oh sorry. Yeah I don't think stupid shit like a father daring his daughter to knock off a guys hat is going to be the "shot heard around the world." Sports fans regularly engage in much worse behavior all the time and for no better reason than "my team and your team" stupidity. When somebody wins the superbowl, depending where it happens they actually destroy the field, tip over cars and start fires.

    We are much more likely to have a civil war result from retarded sports fans, but I guess at least the uniforms will already be picked out.

    I can only think of a single event that was truly significant and that is when some whack job decided to shoot up some Republicans when they were getting ready for a baseball game. And as much as the left wants to indict every conservative on the planet as a white supremacist because some alt right jackass used a car to kill a hard left communist antifa POS, they are stunningly silent on the actually shooting of members of Congress because of their political affiliation.

    If you reversed the variable and some antifa POS ran a car into a crowd at an alt right event and killed somebody, they'd dismiss it as a lone individual not representative of their group as a whole and would paint the victim as a white supremacist who had it coming anyway. But if a conservative targeted a group of Democrats who were about to play a little baseball they would declare it an act of war and the shitstorm that would follow would make Sandy Hook and Parkland look like no big deal.

    So it's very much the same bullshit we have been dealing with since the 2000 election polarized the two parties to the radical extremes and made all hypocrisy fair game. Since then it's been better and worse depending upon the variables in place.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Hell I can add to that list.

    08/30/2017 - Some rabid liberal cunt tried to stove my head in with a bar chair over a Trump vs Hillary debate that she wasn't even a part of. It didn't work out for her.
    Gettin' down innagrass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Circle_10 View Post
    So once we acknowledge that, then what?I almost feel like while I'm sitting around waiting for Civil War 2 to pop off, I'm fighting another war against time, which is ticking away. I'm going to be 40 in a couple years.
    Heh... I started prepping at 23. Now I'm 51. I'm gonna be "Ben Johnson (Mr. Mason)" in Red Dawn before long!
    - Either you're part of the problem or you're part of the solution or you're just part of the landscape - Sam (Robert DeNiro) in, "Ronin" -

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    So it's very much the same bullshit we have been dealing with since the 2000 election polarized the two parties to the radical extremes and made all hypocrisy fair game. Since then it's been better and worse depending upon the variables in place.
    Yeah I pretty much agree, 2000 on has set a new level - I wonder if we will ever heal the schism between the two branches of the Republican Party, much less come to reasonable expectations of the two parties working together on stuff that is actually important to America.

    Looking back though, if Kennedy had to campaign and govern with the same media BS as Bush, Obama and Trump have had to put up with he would have either never been elected or, if elected, assassinated earlier.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...d-by-many.html

    I remember some of the stuff detailed in the article.
    Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President... - Theodore Roosevelt, Lincoln and Free Speech, Metropolitan Magazine, Volume 47, Number 6, May 1918.

    Every Communist must grasp the truth. Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party Mao Zedong, 6 November, 1938 - speech to the Communist Patry of China's sixth Central Committee

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_War_Wagon View Post
    Heh... I started prepping at 23. Now I'm 51. I'm gonna be "Ben Johnson (Mr. Mason)" in Red Dawn before long!
    I'm feeling the Burt Gummer ("Tremors") vibe

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_War_Wagon View Post
    Heh... I started prepping at 23. Now I'm 51. I'm gonna be "Ben Johnson (Mr. Mason)" in Red Dawn before long!
    I feel like the old VN vet in "The Postman": "Can't walk too good either...but I know stuff."
    Mala striga deleta est. (The wicked witch is finished.)

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