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    Don't never say never, it don't even have to make sense.
    Some advancement of the never ending aggrieved that goes off the rails and whoopee! here we go !

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    Balkanization or civil unrest/war is inevitable. Will we see it in our lifetimes? Maybe, maybe not.

    One thing is for sure, the media and certain political and powerful non political figures are fanning the flames currently.
    We interrupt this programme to bring you an important news bulletin: the suspect in the Happy Times All-Girl Glee Club slaying has fled the scene and has managed to elude the police. He is armed and dangerous, and has been spotted in the West Side area, armed with a meat cleaver in one hand and his genitals in the other...

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    Quote Originally Posted by THCDDM4 View Post
    Balkanization or civil unrest/war is inevitable. Will we see it in our lifetimes? Maybe, maybe not.

    One thing is for sure, the media and certain political and powerful non political figures are fanning the flames currently.
    Honestly I do not see it.

    Pullman Strike, Haymarket Square, Cripple Creek, Bonus Army, Tulsa Fires, Pettigrew Bridge, Watts/Detroit/DC riots, LA Riot - that is 130 years of out-and-out gunplay between various U.S. factions. What we have today is mostly a list of hurt-feelings and petty crimes.

    The system eventually worked to moderate the nut cases on both sides, even if that takes some bloodshed and a few generations. That is what Trump was failing to effectively convey on the mutual combat comments in Charlottesville, we can get through this stupid fringe behavior over a statue.

    What really worries me is so few Americans have the education to put together a coherent historical narrative- and understand where they fit in it.

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    This is not about money, this is about power. This started long before 2000, 60's radicals become college professors begin indoctrination, fast forward to today and the entire education system is rotten to the core. Entire generations have been brainwashed, capitalism/America BAD, socialism/communism GOOD. Obama flat out stated it, fundamentally transform America, he started it, Hillary was to continue it, and by the time she left office elections would be meaningless like they are in commie countries. The left was convinced they had it all sewed up, only to have it snatched away when Trump won. Now they have totally lost it, the Deep State is in revolt, we are in the middle of a soft coup that is failing, politicians and the media are rabble rousing and don't delude yourself, if you don't agree with them they want you powerless or dead.
    “The Trump Doctrine is ‘We’re America, Bitch.’ That’s the Trump Doctrine.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by THCDDM4 View Post
    Balkanization or civil unrest/war is inevitable. Will we see it in our lifetimes? Maybe, maybe not.

    One thing is for sure, the media and certain political and powerful non political figures are fanning the flames currently.
    For money. But never forget if you tip the apple cart ALL the way over, the money stops coming in. Better believe they know that and most of this is just political theater and using tragedy to line their pockets whenever the opportunity presents itself.

    They believed Obama was going to change the world, some believe Trump will change it back. But as much as I prefer Trump to Obama or Hillary, at the end of the day they have far more in common with each other than with any of us.

    Trump isn't going to build a wall, Mexico isn't going to pay for it.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardToHandle View Post
    Honestly I do not see it.

    Pullman Strike, Haymarket Square, Cripple Creek, Bonus Army, Tulsa Fires, Pettigrew Bridge, Watts/Detroit/DC riots, LA Riot - that is 130 years of out-and-out gunplay between various U.S. factions. What we have today is mostly a list of hurt-feelings and petty crimes.

    The system eventually worked to moderate the nut cases on both sides, even if that takes some bloodshed and a few generations. That is what Trump was failing to effectively convey on the mutual combat comments in Charlottesville, we can get through this stupid fringe behavior over a statue.

    What really worries me is so few Americans have the education to put together a coherent historical narrative- and understand where they fit in it.
    My main paint being that it is inevitable, given enough time. This particular time and climate may not be "it". But the path we are on is eventually going to lead to Balkanization or civil war. The Nation has been going the route of division and the extremes getting more polarized with the middle disappearing over time.

    The pendulum swings further to each direction with every election.

    It's only a matter of time. It may be tomorrow or a hundred years down the road.
    We interrupt this programme to bring you an important news bulletin: the suspect in the Happy Times All-Girl Glee Club slaying has fled the scene and has managed to elude the police. He is armed and dangerous, and has been spotted in the West Side area, armed with a meat cleaver in one hand and his genitals in the other...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    For money. But never forget if you tip the apple cart ALL the way over, the money stops coming in. Better believe they know that and most of this is just political theater and using tragedy to line their pockets whenever the opportunity presents itself.

    They believed Obama was going to change the world, some believe Trump will change it back. But as much as I prefer Trump to Obama or Hillary, at the end of the day they have far more in common with each other than with any of us.

    Trump isn't going to build a wall, Mexico isn't going to pay for it.
    I absolutely agree with you. It's just that the consequences of polarizing people to extremes and dividing them and fomenting violence between them doesn't just go away when you decide to make money some other way and stop.

    Deeper divisions and polarization is created.

    My point being, that given enough time, regardless of how the media or politicians act- we will Balkanize or a civil war will break out. Eventually.

    It is an inevitability. History continues to repeat.
    We interrupt this programme to bring you an important news bulletin: the suspect in the Happy Times All-Girl Glee Club slaying has fled the scene and has managed to elude the police. He is armed and dangerous, and has been spotted in the West Side area, armed with a meat cleaver in one hand and his genitals in the other...

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    Quote Originally Posted by THCDDM4 View Post
    My main paint being that it is inevitable, given enough time. This particular time and climate may not be "it". But the path we are on is eventually going to lead to Balkanization or civil war. The Nation has been going the route of division and the extremes getting more polarized with the middle disappearing over time.

    The pendulum swings further to each direction with every election.

    It's only a matter of time. It may be tomorrow or a hundred years down the road.
    Actually we mostly agree on the issue - every empire falls. The Romans were kingshit for most of 150 decades. They had a lot of civil and uncivil war.

    Anyone remember James Meredith at Ole Miss 1962? President Kennedy invoked the Insurrection Act, deployed regular and Guard units and then had to create hundreds of temporary federal Marshals. The resulting kerfuffle made Charlottesville and Ferguson MO look like a tea party. People died, a Bishop got a beat down and the riot almost certainly contributed to Kennedy’s assassination. US Marshals’ story - https://www.usmarshals.gov/history/miss/02.htm

    James Meredith is a pretty righteous guy - Republican Air Force vet that forced a Democratic president to declare martial law on the most Democratic place in the country. Meredith then started a solo protest walk across Mississippi- and got shot. Soon as he healed enough to walk again, he rejoined his Freedom March. One hell of an agitator.

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    My Grandfather had the National Guard setting up machine guns in front of his farm to enforce order - against broke farmers like his family. Less than a decade later, he was wearing the same Army uniform, killing the Japanese.

    A few decades later, my uncle was nearly killed by a Black Panther’s bomb. All because some guy with some moderate bomb-making skills was insulted by a judge when being arraigned. There were thousands of bombings across the country at the same time.

    A couple Puerto Rican terrorists came close to shooting President Truman in 1950. Truman even commuted the surviving bad guys death sentence. A crazy Democrat from Illinois shot up the House Republican Caucuses’ baseball practice in 2017. Not that much changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THCDDM4 View Post
    I absolutely agree with you. It's just that the consequences of polarizing people to extremes and dividing them and fomenting violence between them doesn't just go away when you decide to make money some other way and stop.

    Deeper divisions and polarization is created.

    My point being, that given enough time, regardless of how the media or politicians act- we will Balkanize or a civil war will break out. Eventually.

    It is an inevitability. History continues to repeat.
    I disagree.

    You think alt right / antifa stuff is anything new? It's just the current version of the Greensboro shootout between the KKK and the ACP only far less bloody.

    You think the riots at Bezerkley were out of hand because a professor smacked a guy with a bike lock? Doesn't even come close to the riots at the DNC in 1968. Not even close.

    Do you think the socialists are on the verge of taking over? We aren't even close to what was actually being done in the name of socialism in the 1930s.

    We really aren't getting closer to anything. In some respects things have never been better compared to the past. Nobody is winning, they aren't getting their way despite their best efforts and neither are we for the most part. But government keeps stoking those flames of controversy so we fight each other rather than figure out most of the conflict is manufactured in order to keep the focus off of them.

    Each party takes turns being the bad guy for the other side, they take away some rights and everyone remembers to vote for the other party next time, and then it's their turn to take away some more rights at everyone's expense and we are collectively stupid enough to cheer for things like The Patriot Act, The nuclear option, Obamacare mandates, etc.

    Never forget the government isn't divided, they have successfully divided the population. They aren't too crazy about the current outsider as we've all seen, but make no mistake he is still more one of them then one of us.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Totally agree with SteyrAUG. The goal of the Globalist elite is not civil war. Just distraction while the middle class is ground down to serfdom. Keep raiding their stores of wealth and then tax them more! It is all about systematic transfer of wealth but let the workers keep enough to hope for better. If you are agile and determined you can stay ahead of the curve but the majority will be over run eventually.


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