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Thread: Trump thinking about a permanent US base in Poland

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYH1 View Post
    ABNAK, given the choice the Polish most likely would have been our allies in WWII. They just happened to be in the wrong place for that to happen. You point is spot on for sure though.

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    They were. Remember Operation Market Garden.

    https://www.realclearworld.com/artic...nd_112881.html

    They further note the country’s profound preoccupation with Russia as almost Europe’s exclusive security threat.
    Ya think? Maybe an asteroid a distant second? Who the hell else? You know, besides the ‘refugee’ invasion.

    How about Fort Kościuszko?


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadeusz_Kościuszko
    Last edited by FromMyColdDeadHand; 09-20-18 at 18:22.
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

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    I'm good with this. Construction should start immediately and while we are building that, start scouting Fort sites in Hungary and the Czech Republic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    My dad was a history teacher. He said either my kids or my grandkids would fight the Germans.

    Actually, more historically England was the counterweight to continental heavyweight power. So as Germany tries to make take over control of the EU, the natural balance would for England and Russia to counter balance. Of course with the US and China, the old school rules are a little bit warped.
    This time it will be US and Japan and Japan might have to modify their constitution to allow a standing military force.

    Germany is a serious wild card. For them to engage in another conflict on a large scale would require them to go completely rogue as they have also have constitutional limitations to a lesser degree. Germany allied with Russia in a hot war would be ironic as hell and completely precarious for Germany as Putin might take the opportunity for additional land snatches, especially with a weak leader like Merkel.

    Also the UK isn't the British Empire that once existed with ports in every continent and a formidable Navy that could enforce their will globally. Another European war is hard to even fathom, but maybe it would finally resolve the AR vs. AK debate.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    If I were going to visit Europe Poland and Hungary and possibly some other Eastern countries are the only ones I would go to.

    Warsaw feels like Paris in the good years, before it became a ‘Third World shithole’

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    Let’s take this moment to pause, catch our breath and remember that Germany presently does not have an effective functioning military. No ships, tanks and aircraft are pretty much fubar.

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    But they do have a gadzillion muzzie refugees on welfare imported by their Russia friendly East German leader so what's your point.
    “The Trump Doctrine is ‘We’re America, Bitch.’ That’s the Trump Doctrine.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Safari View Post
    I predict that Germany and Turkey will form an alliance . . .
    They've had one since at least WWI and again in WWII.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulezoo View Post
    Let’s take this moment to pause, catch our breath and remember that Germany presently does not have an effective functioning military. No ships, tanks and aircraft are pretty much fubar.
    Not sure if you're being facetious or not. However, Germany does have an effective functioning military with ships, tanks and aircraft. Not including Russia, Germany has the 3rd largest military in Europe. Their military isn't huge, about the size of the USMC ±.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYH1 View Post
    Not sure if you're being facetious or not. However, Germany does have an effective functioning military with ships, tanks and aircraft. Not including Russia, Germany has the 3rd largest military in Europe. Their military isn't huge, about the size of the USMC ±.

    NYH1.
    My last peak at their readiness was pretty bleak.
    I believe they sent what was in essence a Aircraft Carrier for helicopters to help out in Iraq. The readiness facts were that they had no functioning Helicopters on board.
    They're spending money on "other things" now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    They're spending money on "other things" now.
    Replacement culture/population.
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