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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM Engineer View Post
    It’s now official. SIG won both the USSOCOM second focal plane contract AND the Army DMR optic contract, both with the Tango6 1-6.
    Ewww.

    -Not daylight bright (commercial models aren't but allegedly components are same)
    -Unproven design
    -Company has only been selling optics for what, 2-3 years? And none of those were produced by them, just rebranded.
    -Field of view/eye box is pretty shitty, especially compared to Razor 1-6 which is currently being fielded/used

    I'd REALLY like to know why Sig is getting so many contracts recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidewaysil80 View Post
    Ewww.
    I'd REALLY like to know why Sig is getting so many contracts recently.
    Follow the money, what former decision makers now work for SIG and which current ones soon will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drtywk View Post
    The contract optic and mount will both be commercially available as well. The red dot in the BDC reticle has a lockout feature between the settings which is pretty cool.
    I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to a LPVO... but what is a red dot lockout feature?
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    The optic will allow you to use only the red dot and not the entire reticle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drtywk View Post
    The optic will allow you to use only the red dot and not the entire reticle.
    How does that work with an etched reticle? Does the Tango 6 have an etched reticle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidewaysil80 View Post
    Ewww.
    I'd REALLY like to know why Sig is getting so many contracts recently.
    Price. The biggest reason they won the M17/18 contract was price. So more than likely, they were awarded these two second focal plane optics contracts based on price, however, Sig has been doing a good job of making exactly what their .mil customers want, so there is that as well. Keep in mind that this optic and mount combo will be fielded as part of the SOCOM SDMR rifle system and this also plays a big role in field support, sustainment, and follow on contracts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mack7.62 View Post
    How does that work with an etched reticle? Does the Tango 6 have an etched reticle?

    This is not a 1 for 1 Tango6, it is a variant of the Tango6, so there are some features on it that aren't on the current commercial offerings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drtywk View Post
    This is not a 1 for 1 Tango6, it is a variant of the Tango6, so there are some features on it that aren't on the current commercial offerings.
    According to SIG, it will be released to the commercial market. When, is anyones guess. I'm more interested in the color and mount combo than the grey color they currently offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drtywk View Post
    This is not a 1 for 1 Tango6, it is a variant of the Tango6, so there are some features on it that aren't on the current commercial offerings.
    It’s being reported that the only difference aside from aesthetics is final assemblt takes place in the US. If that’s accurate then feature/performance would be the same.

    Also, Sig assembling the optic isn’t really a selling point for me considering they’ve never manufactured an optic before, they simply rebrand from others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidewaysil80 View Post
    It’s being reported that the only difference aside from aesthetics is final assemblt takes place in the US.
    Oregon.....wilsonville..

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