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Thread: The Battle For Cop Keating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano5326 View Post
    Positioning on low ground near a road was clearly not a tactical decision, it was an ease of logistics and lazy minded decision.



    I couldn't even roughly begin to compare Khe San (SP?) with 3+ divisions (NVA divisions being 3-6 regiments.. 1 or 2 being artillery) of well supported NVA against 2 regiments of USMC.... IIRC from war college readings
    Oh I wasn't trying to compare the two, just pointing out that holding some high ground around such a place (other than a platoon-sized OP) was probably the more militarily sound decision. Khe Sanh, although battered, held. Keating was damn near overrun.

    Absolutely, any point I'm trying to make is made with a significantly scaled-back scenario at Keating in mind as compared to Khe Sanh, on both the numbers of US and enemy forces.
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    BRAVO, that is just friggin awesome.

    Since we are talking about Afghanistan, great story from General Keane. Just a little tidbit, he saved the life of Petraeus during a live fire exercise.

    The untold story of General Jack Keane
    Oct. 11, 2018 - 6:00 - General Jack Keane opens up about his time in Afghanistan and more on 'The Story with Martha MacCallum.'
    https://video.foxnews.com/v/58476751...#sp=show-clips

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano5326 View Post
    Another FOB where the low ground was seized, shocker it turned out bad... somebody should have seen a court martial for Keatings drift .. and the litany of other low ground fiasco FOB placements easy for logistics, crap for tactics.
    I was working in Baghdad at the time this went down. I was amazed that anyone would choose that sight for a COP.
    I believe there was a lot of nonsense bandied back and forth about the performance of the weapons being used. A lot of finger pointing and to little effect in the end.
    It's one thing when bad things happen, it's another when bad things happen due to really bad command decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    I was working in Baghdad at the time this went down. I was amazed that anyone would choose that sight for a COP.
    I believe there was a lot of nonsense bandied back and forth about the performance of the weapons being used. A lot of finger pointing and to little effect in the end.
    It's one thing when bad things happen, it's another when bad things happen due to really bad command decisions.
    Are you thinking of Wanat?
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    I could be, but I went back and read the Wiki for Wanat and it didn't ring any bells.

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